The long overdue publicocrapometer thread!

[thehemogoblin]

How about we don't use that expression in the future, everybody?

Or we could strengthen our status of being absolutely unfunny and always say "no straight".

This isn't monaco.

[Klon]

How about we don't use that expression in the future, everybody?

Or we could strengthen our status of being absolutely unfunny and always say "no straight".

This isn't monaco.

So rien ne va plus?

[BigG80]

How about we don't use that expression in the future, everybody?

Or we could strengthen our status of being absolutely unfunny and always say "no straight".

This isn't monaco.

That made me laugh, have a biscuit.

[BlindCaveSalamander]

How about we don't use that expression in the future, everybody?

Or we could strengthen our status of being absolutely unfunny and always say "no straight".

This isn't Hungary.

Fixed.

[Cynon]

How about we don't use that expression in the future, everybody?

Or we could strengthen our status of being absolutely unfunny and always say "no straight".

This isn't Hungary, Monaco, or Belle Isle.

Fixed. Again.

[SuperAguri]

Just to bring it back on top (is that even allowed on F1Rejects?), here's a true publicocrap release: http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... 37269.html

You ain't fooling no-one Williams.

People forget that Rubens Barichello was a pay driver in his Jordan and Stewart days?

[watka]

Just to bring it back on top (is that even allowed on F1Rejects?), here's a true publicocrap release: http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... 37269.html

You ain't fooling no-one Williams.

People forget that Rubens Barichello was a pay driver in his Jordan and Stewart days?

Really? What sponsorship did he bring in?

[Myrvold]

People forget that Rubens Barichello was a pay driver in his Jordan and Stewart days?

Really? What sponsorship did he bring in?

In his first days in Jordan I can understand it... but Stewart... really?

[AndreaModa]

Well you've got about a 1 in 500 chance of guessing which one of the many labels on that 1993 Jordan was the one that Rubens brought in!

But yeah, I don't understand the Stewart reasoning, what were their sponsors? HSBC, Texaco, Visit Malaysia, ...?

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Rubinho was sponsored by Arisco when he was at Jordan, but he effectively lost that money when Pedro Diniz arrived on the scene, not that he really needed the cash anymore.

[DanielPT]

Rubinho was sponsored by Arisco when he was at Jordan, but he effectively lost that money when Pedro Diniz arrived on the scene.

Exchanging Rubens for Pedro Diniz was a brilliant decision!

[Cynon]

I have a whiff of publiciocrap.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88817

Nico Rosberg thinks he can win in Schumi's car.

[Peter]

i disagree with the disagreeing of the disagreeing, i think the pastor is just as fast as the hulk, thing is only that the pastor is hugely inconsistent (except at monaco) and the hulk is consistent enough. At least it doesn't take him 4 years to become consistent. That's the big difference.


And no-one is cuter than pastor, except maybe nissany

Hulk easily beat Pastor in 2009 in GP2 ,when they were teammates, and Pastor had been around for 3 years already. Senna beat Pastor in points in 2008, Di Grassi in 2008 and 2009, Grosjean too, and he pulled out after half a season!!! The only reason Pastor won was because of GP2's lack of real good talent and competitiveness this year. He does not deserve to be in F1 right now. It just shows that money gets you places in F1 instead of skill. Because all the 4 drivers I said are perhaps better than him, but one's not in a backmarker anymore, one might not be in a backmarker anymore, one is now a test driver, and one is outside looking in.


And oh God i'll have to look at him on TV. Come on, it's bad enough looking at Buemi and Kubica.

[Myrvold]

Williams a backmarker?

[Waris]

If Maldonado really is that bad, that doesn't bode well for Pérez then, since Maldonado beat Pérez in GP2 last year.

[DanielPT]

If Maldonado really is that bad, that doesn't bode well for Pérez then, since Maldonado beat Pérez in GP2 last year.

Yes, but Perez is only 20 years old compared to the 25 of Pastor. Also, Perez was in his 2nd year, while Pastor was in his fourth... Perez can turn out to be actually better than Pastor. Since both will be probably battling for minor points (unless my predicted Williams happens this year! And yes, I have been predicting a Williams revival almost every year since Montoya last won a race!) we will be able to see who comes on too. F1 is a very different kettle of fish. Just look at KOBAYASHI!

[the Masked Lapwing]

If Maldonado really is that bad, that doesn't bode well for Pérez then, since Maldonado beat Pérez in GP2 last year.

Not necessarily. Yes, Maldonado beat Pérez, but Maldonado has been there for, what, 4 years or so? Pérez has been there for two, and was fighting with the somewhat more experienced Maldonado for the championship. Plus, there is the fact that F1 cars aren't all the same, and just maybe the Sauber will be better than the Williams, just enough so that Pérez can be beating Maldonado on a regular basis. Even if the only others he's beating are the Toro Rossos, Virgins and HRTs. (I'm already not counting Team Lotus. How wrong I will be...)

There. Now you can shoot holes in that theory
I just want Pérez to beat Maldonado. Despite him being in a Williams...

[mario]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have had probably some of the best publiciocrap in a long time today, with Kolles trying to justify why he has hired Karthikeyan:

"We've been speaking to Narain for quite a while," Kolles told AUTOSPORT. "He has the experience, he has the strength and he is quick enough for F1.
"During the Jordan time his physical condition was not the best, but he has improved a lot in that area since then. He raced for me in the Le Mans Series, when he had to drive for many hours, and I know he has got better."
"Normally as a race driver you get more mature, and by getting mature this sometimes gives you an advantage. If you get mature and you lose speed that is not good, but I hope, and believe, he has the speed - so he will have increased speed and maturity."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88824

Now, I'm sorry, but Schumacher, who was still keeping up his fitness training after he left F1, and occasionally driving Ferrari's for PR material, or De La Rosa, who was still occasionally testing for Mclaren, struggled on their returns. So how a driver who was rated lower than both of those men will have become faster by driving less for a longer period of time, and was significantly slower than Chandhok in a simulator test, is beyond me - unless Kolles decides to help him loose weight by lightening his wallet...

[Phoenix]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

That and Kolles is probably looking to cash in on Indian interest, and he can't get Chandhok back on board.

[Phoenix]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

That and Kolles is probably looking to cash in on Indian interest, and he can't get Chandhok back on board.

Karun Chandhok has learnt you can't trust in Colin Kolles.

[DanielPT]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

That and Kolles is probably looking to cash in on Indian interest, and he can't get Chandhok back on board.

Karun Chandhok has learnt you can't trust in Colin Kolles.

I bet that when Kolles offered the seat to Chandhok he simply answered: "Go home Colin Kolles!"

[Peter]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

That and Kolles is probably looking to cash in on Indian interest, and he can't get Chandhok back on board.

Well a team owner knows one of his drivers better than any of us can. So maybe this isn't all media friendly stuff. Physical condition is one thing, and race speed is another thing. But one can help the other.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88840

Now here's the guy who rejected Narain in 2008 because he didn't have the technical skills required, saying he's happy Narain's back in the sport. In other words, Vijay is saying: "Thanks for taking that weight of my back" (The need to have an Indian driver in F1 for the first Indian GP)

[Cynon]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88840

Now here's the guy who rejected Narain in 2008 because he didn't have the technical skills required, saying he's happy Narain's back in the sport. In other words, Vijay is saying: "Thanks for taking that weight of my back" (The need to have an Indian driver in F1 for the first Indian GP)

Think that Mallya is also happy that it's Karthikeyan and not Chandhok? Because it's already been revealed on this forum that Mallya and Chandhok are of different castes in India.

[TomPryce]

Look at this...
http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/11815/
Great. Now we have our RotY possibly going to our RTotY. Woopbam.

[LionZoo]

Narain Karthikeyan is there because he pays, and Colin Kolles just wants to expel something out of his mouth that looks nice when printed or told. That's not publicocrap - it's rather lame media-friendly stuff.

That and Kolles is probably looking to cash in on Indian interest, and he can't get Chandhok back on board.

Karun Chandhok has learnt you can't trust in Colin Kolles.

Well there was that report here that said Chandhok never paid like he promised. I hate to take the unpopular view, but maybe it's Colin Kolles that has learned you can't trust Karun Chandhok.

(And I quite like Karun...)

[Stramala]

Look at this...
http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/11815/
Great. Now we have our RotY possibly going to our RTotY. Woopbam.

Conspiracy theory. The guy who runs this website doesn't actually seem to know much when it comes to, well, anything. Wouldn't trust anything he said.
Liuzzi to HRT is just a logical deduction and nothing else.

[Peter]

Look at this...
http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/11815/
Great. Now we have our RotY possibly going to our RTotY. Woopbam.

Conspiracy theory. The guy who runs this website doesn't actually seem to know much when it comes to, well, anything. Wouldn't trust anything he said.
Liuzzi to HRT is just a logical deduction and nothing else.

Obviously, because we all know Liuzzi is staying at Force India and is going to beat Petrov next year

[Henrique]

Red alert! Renault says they're aiming for top three with their "brave" new car design.

[watka]

Renault are not endearing themselves to anyone are they? For the first time last season I'd grown to like them with Briatore out of the frame, but now Bahar has stuck his foot in it, I'm all for them getting ROTY.

[mario]

Well, we've got the latest publication from Ferrari explaining why they will call the 2011 car the F150. According to Ferrari, it is called the F150 to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the unification of Italy.

The choice of name stems from Ferrari’s desire to pay tribute to this year’s one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Unification of Italy. The placement of the “Tricolore” Italian flag as part of the car livery will therefore have even more significance in 2011.
“Ferrari is an expression of Italian excellence, talent and creativity,” declared President Luca di Montezemolo. “All the men and women who put so much effort and passion into their work at Maranello share the pride and responsibility of representing our country around the world and it is in this spirit that we chose to dedicate this car to an event that is so important for the whole of Italy.”

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1 ... _F150.aspx

However, from my understanding of the Risorgimento movement, most observers would say that Italian unification was not completed until at least 1871, with the inclusion of the Veneto region in 1866, what remained of the Papal State in 1870, and the relocation of the capitol to Rome in 1871. So, 2011 would be, if I am not mistaken, the 140th anniversary of Italian unification, not the 150th.

Secondly, there is the distinct problem that Ferrari have also just named their car after a Ford pick up truck - which is perhaps not the best image to link to, if we are honest.

[eagleash]

The first "King of Italy " was proclaimed in March 1861 & Rome declared the Capital thereof shortly afterward. To all intents & purposes these are the criteria on which a "unified" nation would be judged. A very small number of minor States & Cities resisted for sometime afterward & the final unification was not fully completed until after WW1. 1861 has long been the accepted date of the Unification.

Edit: The withholding areas included the Papal States which was a fairly vital omission as Rome had already been declared Capital of Italy (!). They were included around 1864. The date of the first Italian Parliament was also 1861, in Florence, although bits & bobs of unification occurred through the decade up until the Franco/Prussian War of 1870/71.

[Myrvold]

Is it something you don't know, or just ain't able to research mario?

No offence to you and your knowledge eagleash

[eagleash]

Is it something you don't know, or just ain't able to research mario?

No offence to you and your knowledge eagleash

None taken (I think)

(Not entirely sure what point you are making here)

[Myrvold]

That I praise Mario for know this,- but no mention of you, even though you present a theory just as valid.

Or something like that ;P

[eagleash]

Right..

[Cynon]

Ferrari is calling the new car the F150? So you mean they're showing up with one of these?



I mean, I heard Alain Prost say that the Ferrari drove like a truck at one point, but I didn't think Ferrari were as humorless as to actually... do it...

[Shizuka]

Ferrari is calling the new car the F150? So you mean they're showing up with one of these?



I mean, I heard Alain Prost say that the Ferrari drove like a truck at one point, but I didn't think Ferrari were as humorless as to actually... do it...

And HRT's F111, which is an airplane?

[DanielPT]

Ferrari is calling the new car the F150? So you mean they're showing up with one of these?



I mean, I heard Alain Prost say that the Ferrari drove like a truck at one point, but I didn't think Ferrari were as humorless as to actually... do it...

At least they will have an advantage in wheel to wheel battles!