Silverstone: Pre-2010 or post-2010?

[darkapprentice77]

Which version is better?

[AdrianSutil]

Pre-2010. It had a better-flowing feel to it. But the post-2010 version is not crap, it'll grow on me eventually.

[nome66]

the new one is pretty good, but for some reason, i like the 1991 version the best.
also, they should have 2 DRS zones because there's the entire hangar straight that just sits there with these new cars not passing into stowe.
i don't know why they added the 2010 extension anyways. i was a little peeved when they completely removed the possibility of Abbey returning to its flatout left hander form.

[AdrianSutil]

It was wiping out Bridge that peeved me off. It's a fairly iconic corner at Silverstone and they deleted it like any other turn. I was there in 2005 and spent most of the race at Bridge.

[JeremyMcClean]

I think the Pre-2010 version is much better. The Post-2010 version is just like the old version with a mucked up first sector in it and without the Abbey Chicane. That's probably one of the best passing places in the circuit. I could understand them getting a new section for the motorcycles, but could they at least attempt to retain the Bridge section? It was fine the way it is in my opinion. At least Mr Tilke didn't get his hands on it. Can you imagine???

[Captain Hammer]

It was wiping out Bridge that peeved me off. It's a fairly iconic corner at Silverstone and they deleted it like any other turn. I was there in 2005 and spent most of the race at Bridge.

Bridge was great in the 1980s and early 1990s. But as there became more and more focus on downforce, the challenge was taken out of the corner.

[AdrianSutil]

It was wiping out Bridge that peeved me off. It's a fairly iconic corner at Silverstone and they deleted it like any other turn. I was there in 2005 and spent most of the race at Bridge.

Bridge was great in the 1980s and early 1990s. But as there became more and more focus on downforce, the challenge was taken out of the corner.

Well you could say the same about Eau Rouge, albeit slightly different reason. It's a personal choice as I mentioned above.

[F1000X]

Trick question: pre-1991.

[AndreaModa]

I think the Pre-2010 version is much better. The Post-2010 version is just like the old version with a mucked up first sector in it and without the Abbey Chicane. That's probably one of the best passing places in the circuit. I could understand them getting a new section for the motorcycles, but could they at least attempt to retain the Bridge section? It was fine the way it is in my opinion. At least Mr Tilke didn't get his hands on it. Can you imagine???

They have retained the Bridge section of track, it's all still there, surface, kerbs, the lot. During last year's F1 race they had the 'fan village' or whatever they call it with all the burger vans and merch stalls on the uphill section just after Bridge corner. So in theory they could still use it if they wanted to, but I like the new addition, it makes the track much longer (I think it's the longest track that MotoGP visits) and the average speed is higher too. It's a shame they lost Bridge, and Priory for that matter, but it's still a great circuit in my opinion. Just a shame it lacks elevation changes, but that's what you get for building a circuit on an airfield!

[JeremyMcClean]

I think the Pre-2010 version is much better. The Post-2010 version is just like the old version with a mucked up first sector in it and without the Abbey Chicane. That's probably one of the best passing places in the circuit. I could understand them getting a new section for the motorcycles, but could they at least attempt to retain the Bridge section? It was fine the way it is in my opinion. At least Mr Tilke didn't get his hands on it. Can you imagine???

They have retained the Bridge section of track, it's all still there, surface, kerbs, the lot. During last year's F1 race they had the 'fan village' or whatever they call it with all the burger vans and merch stalls on the uphill section just after Bridge corner. So in theory they could still use it if they wanted to, but I like the new addition, it makes the track much longer (I think it's the longest track that MotoGP visits) and the average speed is higher too. It's a shame they lost Bridge, and Priory for that matter, but it's still a great circuit in my opinion. Just a shame it lacks elevation changes, but that's what you get for building a circuit on an airfield!

I know they kept the track, but they kinda put a grandstand between the first corner and the bridge, preventing any chance of those corners being used...

I actually don't mind the post-2010 version, it's just that the pre-2010 version was better and didn't need to be changed...

[FullMetalJack]

Trick question: pre-1991.

This.

Check this out as proof.

And this.

[CoopsII]

On a similar note I loathe and despise the current Hockenheim, I want the old one back.

[mario]

I think the Pre-2010 version is much better. The Post-2010 version is just like the old version with a mucked up first sector in it and without the Abbey Chicane. That's probably one of the best passing places in the circuit. I could understand them getting a new section for the motorcycles, but could they at least attempt to retain the Bridge section? It was fine the way it is in my opinion. At least Mr Tilke didn't get his hands on it. Can you imagine???

I believe, although I am open to being corrected, that the contract with Dorna Sports was dependent on the track being modified, with the Bridge corner specified as one of the corners that could no longer be used due to inadequate crash protection measures for motorcyclists.

[WeirdKerr]

Trick question: pre-1991.

This.

Check this out as proof.

And this.

Wrong.... the one before the chicane at woodcote......

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Obviously pre-1991, but if it's between 1991-2010 and post-2010, then it has to be post-2010. Bridge corner is the only think 1991-2010 has going for it, and I never understood the fuss about it. I'll take greater overtaking opportunities, better pit facilities, and the lack of the mickey-mouse final sector any day, thank you very much.

[Klon]

While I know this is not the unpopular opinions thread this thread forces me to pop one of those out: neither. Silverstone really is, as classic as it may be, one of the worse tracks on the F1 calendar which makes it a shame that the deal with Donington fell through - even though Donington has now become a bastardised version of what used to be a great track.

Controversial Klon is sticking his neck out and claims that generally for their long history of motorsport, Britain's tracks mainly seem to be disappointing. I mean thinking about the best tracks in the world, UK would not be one of those places coming to my mind.

[nome66]

yeah, so they replaced it with a mickey mouse first sector.

[AdrianSutil]

yeah, so they replaced it with a mickey mouse first sector.

This. It's just awful.

[pasta_maldonado]

While I know this is not the unpopular opinions thread this thread forces me to pop one of those out: neither. Silverstone really is, as classic as it may be, one of the worse tracks on the F1 calendar which makes it a shame that the deal with Donington fell through - even though Donington has now become a bastardised version of what used to be a great track.

Controversial Klon is sticking his neck out and claims that generally for their long history of motorsport, Britain's tracks mainly seem to be disappointing. I mean thinking about the best tracks in the world, UK would not be one of those places coming to my mind.

Brands Hatch is by far the best

[AndreaModa]

While I know this is not the unpopular opinions thread this thread forces me to pop one of those out: neither. Silverstone really is, as classic as it may be, one of the worse tracks on the F1 calendar which makes it a shame that the deal with Donington fell through - even though Donington has now become a bastardised version of what used to be a great track.

Controversial Klon is sticking his neck out and claims that generally for their long history of motorsport, Britain's tracks mainly seem to be disappointing. I mean thinking about the best tracks in the world, UK would not be one of those places coming to my mind.

Brands Hatch is by far the best

Yeah Brands, Donington, Cadwell, Oulton, they all have great elevation change, a mix of corners and are great tracks to go to, but they all lack the facilities of a top-end venue. Those 4 are probably the best tracks in the country, yet only Brands and Donington are even close enough to attract international series, and even then they're still piss poor when you compare to Silverstone. Ever since Silverstone got the GP full-time from the late 80s onwards, there's been a chronic lack of under-investment in the other circuits, creating this massive imbalance that we have today. Only MSV under Jonathon Palmer has begun to rectify that, but even then it's just piecemeal things here and there. The fact is, we all saw how the Donington plans went down the drain, and maybe if that had been done around 2003-04 prior to the global financial crisis then maybe it could have worked. The reality is that no-one and no company will commit to the sort of investment required to bring any of Britain's other tracks up to the level that Silverstone currently is.

[eurobrun]

Thought I would post this as it is semi-relevant to the direction this thread was heading.

[DalekSam]

Pre-2010. I cannot stand the new section, and the whole fast straights, fast and slow corners followed by a complex made Silverstone one of my favourite tracks. The new section just seems bland in comparison.

Also, if I had to choose a different one, Pre-1991. Obvious reasons.

[Captain Hammer]

I don't understand the love for the pre-1991 circuit. Sure, it was good - a real turbo circuit - but it didn't have Maggotts-Becketts-Chapel.

[F1000X]

While I know this is not the unpopular opinions thread this thread forces me to pop one of those out: neither. Silverstone really is, as classic as it may be, one of the worse tracks on the F1 calendar which makes it a shame that the deal with Donington fell through - even though Donington has now become a bastardised version of what used to be a great track.

Controversial Klon is sticking his neck out and claims that generally for their long history of motorsport, Britain's tracks mainly seem to be disappointing. I mean thinking about the best tracks in the world, UK would not be one of those places coming to my mind.

Brands Hatch is by far the best

Ever since Silverstone got the GP full-time from the late 80s onwards, there's been a chronic lack of under-investment in the other circuits, creating this massive imbalance that we have today. Only MSV under Jonathon Palmer has begun to rectify that, but even then it's just piecemeal things here and there.

Does the grand prix section of Brands Hatch still exist? I thought it was on its way out after Henry Surtees died, and also in part because of angry neighbors. It would be a shame if that is the case.

That raises an interesting ponderbox question.

[pasta_maldonado]

Does the grand prix section of Brands Hatch still exist? I thought it was on its way out after Henry Surtees died, and also in part because of angry neighbors. It would be a shame if that is the case.

That raises an interesting ponderbox question.

It definately still exists, the BTCC race on it every year along with all the supports and club events. As a bonus, my grandparents live about 5-10 mins away from Brands

[tommykl]

Does the grand prix section of Brands Hatch still exist? I thought it was on its way out after Henry Surtees died, and also in part because of angry neighbors. It would be a shame if that is the case.

That raises an interesting ponderbox question.

It definately still exists, the BTCC race on it every year along with all the supports and club events. As a bonus, my grandparents live about 5-10 mins away from Brands

I used to live 20 minutes from Brands Hatch. Sadly, I was too young to actually realise it, despite knowing the track design by heart thanks to Michel Vaillant

[dr-baker]

Does the grand prix section of Brands Hatch still exist? I thought it was on its way out after Henry Surtees died, and also in part because of angry neighbors. It would be a shame if that is the case.

That raises an interesting ponderbox question.

It definately still exists, the BTCC race on it every year along with all the supports and club events. As a bonus, my grandparents live about 5-10 mins away from Brands

I was there at Brands just a few weeks ago. The Grand Prix loop definitely still exists, although it certainly is not used very often any more.

[go_Rubens]

My question, why was there a need to "Tilkefy" Silverstone when it was fine as it was?

[dr-baker]

My question, why was there a need to "Tilkefy" Silverstone when it was fine as it was?

MotoGP had something to do with it...

[go_Rubens]

My question, why was there a need to "Tilkefy" Silverstone when it was fine as it was?

MotoGP had something to do with it...

Then how about MotoGP uses the new version while F1 uses Bridge? Also, I didn't see a need to tighten Club like it is now. Why?