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by **FantometteBR** » 06 Aug 2012, 03:21

Jackie Oliver wrote:We thought we would start the season on high note, but it pissed me off the cars didn't made at all. I know is just the beggining, but now is time to plan what we can fix for the next rounds

by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Aug 2012, 03:28

@FMecha - You're right! Knight has been demoted to No.2 now and the Jagermeister loving Hermann Mann that we all know and love is now team boss.

Hermann Mann wrote:Vell...zis is ein guten arbeit by der drivers and der mechaniksh..mmn. 9th place vill be very important later in der year. Stefan kept it on der road...yes, you can put the Jagermeister there. No, there! Scheisse...just give it here. Anyway... *sip* ja, it is ein shame dat Gabriele could not finish der race. Der is still many improvements to be made, *sip*we did finish der race 2 laps down, anyway. Vill zere be einen partei later in der evening, Mischster Lindsay? I have plenty of bottles of Jaaagermeister in der Mannschaft in der parkhaus...

by **Stramala** » 06 Aug 2012, 03:39

La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:Scuderia Italia reap windfall from debut victory

After a sensational first win for Stefano Modena and his Scuderia Italia team, the Ferrari powered squad has announced a host of new sponsors backing the team for the rest of the season, starting from the next round of the championship.

Peroni will become a major sponsor of the team, with the Dallara machines to be branded with their famous "Nastro Azzurro" brand. Along with them, deals have also been signed with oil and lubricants supplier Selenia, Cesena-based fitness equipment brand TechnoGym, insurance firm Reale Mutua, and Siena-based bank Montepaschi.

The small team, based in Brescia, had expanded to two cars for the first time for this season, and the immediate impact has come only months after appointing prodigious young Scottish entrepreneur Alasdair Lindsay as their CEO. The Scot got rich at a young age, trading his way up to becoming a millionare before turning 19.

"It's great to sign all these deals with these great sponsors, they will ensure we will keep progressing well throughout the year," he said. "Giuseppe [Lucchini] had become wrapped up in some issues with his own steel fabrication business, so he needed someone to come along and assist with the team. And so here I am. People thought he was crazy hiring such a young guy to run an F1 team, but I think now everyone can understand why. I'm not an idiot you know."

by **Ataxia** » 06 Aug 2012, 04:00

Jacques Couteau wrote:Zis ees a disgrace! I cannot believe zat zis 'as 'appened! We were doing ver' ver' well, but now we end up wiz no points. As you Breets say, bladdy useless!

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 06 Aug 2012, 05:00

Frank Williams wrote:It's incredibly frustrating to lose a win like that, but we have to look at the positives here. Both Thierry and Alessandro did fantastic jobs in the race - Thierry drove extremely well and ran his own race, and it was only down to a fuel miscalculation that he was denied what would've been a fantastic maiden win on his Williams debut. And while Alessandro must be kicking himself after spinning off very early, he still did well to recover 2nd place. While this is a race I feel we should've won, nonetheless, we still scored 8 points, which is 8 more than McLaren and Ferrari did.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 06 Aug 2012, 07:25

Ferrari wrote:Well... one of our V12s has won the race! Take that, Honda! And our gearboxes have had an unocomparable reliability record in testing. Scuderia Italia should try them, they are cutting edge technology and, mark my words, in a few years all top teams will be using these kind of gearboxes!

Adrian Newey wrote:Don't do it man. We spent an entire morning clearing pieces of Ferrari gearbox out of Big Mo's car during one of the pre-season tests when it shredded itself right infront of him.

by **This** » 06 Aug 2012, 07:28

Guy Ligier wrote:Alors, you garçons have not seen anything yet, pas du tout! Michèlle is a very good chauffeur! Italien driver in a voiture azzuro, succes, garantie!

by **Stramala** » 06 Aug 2012, 07:37

Guy Ligier wrote:Alors, you garçons have not seen anything yet, pas du tout! Michèlle is a very good chauffeur! Italien driver in a voiture azzuro, succes, garantie!

Alasdair Lindsay wrote:I don't think so Monsieur Ligier, we had the opportunity to sign him but turned him down, because we didn't believe he would be a success. De Cesaris was confirmed a long time ago so it was between Alboreto and Modena. That choice was obviously a stroke of genius judging by yesterday's result...

by **This** » 06 Aug 2012, 08:09

Guy Ligier wrote:I see, monsieur Lindsay. But Ligier voiture is better, which make chauffeur better, alors, understand-vous? Monsieur Du César drove for us in 1984, very vite, but only on gravel.

by **eurobrun** » 06 Aug 2012, 08:10

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

It has been reported that Prince Walik has been spotted in the McLaren garage.

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 08:15

if anybody is interested in larrousse or brabham - post it - and if no replys from the current bosses comes over in time - its yours (would be nice if you include your favourite line-up so you can possibly start in imola already) ... if there is enough interest, we could also start a f3000-series...

by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Aug 2012, 08:24

Flaschenpost wrote:if anybody is interested in larrousse or brabham - post it - and if no replys from the current bosses comes over in time - its yours (would be nice if you include your favourite line-up so you can possibly start in imola already) ... if there is enough interest, we could also start a f3000-series...

Hey Flaschenpost, don't be so impatient. Those members who have already claimed the teams will post. You may not know about FMecha's remindergate, but you are getting closer to that level. I understand you're new and eager to impress and settle in but you need to slow down a bit

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 08:25

you think so? its three days now.... hm... okay, you´re right! i´ll settle larrousse and brabham in with what they mentioned earlier... even if they never contracted it ... but their assistant bobby will do that for them ... so larrousse in with alliot - and brabham with g.brabham and palmer until they make their decisions

by **AdrianSutil** » 06 Aug 2012, 10:48

Bertrand Gachot:
Delighted to score my first point on my debut. The Minardi wasn't bad here, and with a little more luck, could've pushed for more points. It's a solid start mind.

And flaschenpost, both JeremyMcClean and eichy are regular posters (JMcC more so). They'll be around in a day or two. Many, many people here have important things in life like jobs, family etc. And let's be honest, an Internet foul isn't always top of the 'to do' list.

by **FantometteBR** » 06 Aug 2012, 12:29

Now I brought a question

There will be a 'prize system' for the teams based on race points and achievements?

by **eichy** » 06 Aug 2012, 13:56

I will give away my spot with Brabham for someone who wants it.

by **Shizuka** » 06 Aug 2012, 16:56

Can I take on Larrousse too?

Website · by **Wizzie** » 06 Aug 2012, 17:10

Shizuka wrote:Can I take on Larrousse too?

Short answer: No. Long answer: Bathplug no. :lol:

It's barely been three days and I'm certain Mr McClean would be absolutely furious if you took over. Brabham on the other hand's all yours if you want it,

by **Shizuka** » 06 Aug 2012, 17:14

I wasn't taking it seriously

Just wanted to see how I can fare with AGS.

by **Ferrarist** » 06 Aug 2012, 17:50

eichy wrote:I will give away my spot with Brabham for someone who wants it.

I'll take it!

Website · by **Wizzie** » 06 Aug 2012, 18:17

Shizuka wrote:I wasn't taking it seriously
Just wanted to see how I can fare with AGS.

Oh

Sarcasm is very hard to detect on the internet sometimes

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 19:39

Ferrarist wrote:
eichy wrote:I will give away my spot with Brabham for someone who wants it.

I'll take it!

okay... any suggestions bout drivers?

by **Ferrarist** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:20

Flaschenpost wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:
eichy wrote:I will give away my spot with Brabham for someone who wants it.

I'll take it!

okay... any suggestions bout drivers?

Brabham is interested in former Formula 3000 driver Mark Blundell, as well as the 1988 American Racing Series champion Jon Beekhuis. As for the tires, we'd like to get the good old Goodyear tires. Last but not least, the engine, where we'd like to ask Yamaha, if they want to supply us.

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:30

Brabham is interested in former Formula 3000 driver Mark Blundell, as well as the 1988 American Racing Series champion Jon Beekhuis. As for the tires, we'd like to get the good old Goodyear tires. Last but not least, the engine, where we'd like to ask Yamaha, if they want to supply us.[/quote]

Both would join in! Yamaha is interested but only if you sign a japanese driver for one of the race-cockpits!

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:33

Flaschenpost wrote:Brabham is interested in former Formula 3000 driver Mark Blundell, as well as the 1988 American Racing Series champion Jon Beekhuis. As for the tires, we'd like to get the good old Goodyear tires. Last but not least, the engine, where we'd like to ask Yamaha, if they want to supply us.

Both would join in! Yamaha is interested but only if you sign a japanese driver for one of the race-cockpits!

by **Ferrarist** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:36

Flaschenpost wrote:Both would join in! Yamaha is interested but only if you sign a japanese driver for one of the race-cockpits!

If Yamaha wants to play that card, Brabham's going to say no thanks! Still, Brabham is not sure if they might receive proper support by either Judd or Ford, as they seemingly supply 75% of the grid. However, Brabham has recently build an Alfa 164 for the Procar regulations, and Alfa probably still has that V10 engine. So Brabham would like to ask Alfa, if they can have that engine.

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:40

Nice Idea! That Engine is in! Welcome to the series! Lets Imola-PreQuali start

by **Ferrarist** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:52

Brabham Press Office wrote:Brabham has now entered the 1989 F1 season!
After the change in ownership, Brabham is proud to announce that we will be on the grid from the San Marino Grand Prix on. Our two drivers will be former F3000 driver Mark Blundell, as well as the 1988 American Racing Series champion, Jon Beekhuis. While we could have signed at least one veteran for our team, we felt that we should go for young talents here. We are also proud to announce an exclusive deal with Alfa Romeo, who will supply us with their V10 engine. With further development, we are confident that we'll place in front of the Ford/Judd teams in a very short time.

by **Flaschenpost** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:54

1989 SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX, PRE-QUALIFYING, OFFICIAL RESULTS

1. Andrea de Cesaris (Dallara-Ferrari) 1:23.851
2. Stefano Modena (Dallara-Ferrari) +0.070s
3. Michele Alboreto (Ligier-Ford) +0.873
4. Mark Blundell (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +1.435s
5. Gabriele Tarquini (Onyx-Ford) +1.824s
6. Nicola Larini (Osella-Judd) +1.955s
7. Bernd Schneider (EuroBrun-Lamborghini) +2.131s
8. Eddie Cheever (AGS-Ford) +2.186s
9. Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Judd) +2.385s
10. Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) +2.556s
11. Philippe Alliot (Larrousse-Ford) +2.638s
12. Eric van de Poele (AGS-Ford) +2.790s
13. Alex Caffi (Zakspeed-Ford) +2.869s
14. Satoru Nakajima (Ligier-Ford) +2.931s
15. Luis Perez-Sala (Zakspeed-Ford) +3.131s
16. Gregor Foitek (EuroBrun-Lamborghini) +3.257s
17. Jon Beekhuis (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +3.299s
18. Pierre-Henri Raphanel (Coloni-Ford) +4.072s
19. Enrico Bertaggia (Coloni-Ford) +4.382s

by **Ferrarist** » 06 Aug 2012, 20:58

Walther Williams (Team owner of Brabham) wrote:"Well, it's become apperant that the Alfa engine needs some more development. But considering that this was a rather short-term deal, the results look ok. We are pleased with Mark's results, while Jon clearly needs a bit more time to make himself familiar with a F1 car. But I believe in his talent, which is why I'll give him the time he needs."

by **Stramala** » 06 Aug 2012, 21:58

Flaschenpost wrote:1989 SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX, PRE-QUALIFYING, OFFICIAL RESULTS

1. Andrea de Cesaris (Dallara-Ferrari) 1:23.851
2. Stefano Modena (Dallara-Ferrari) +0.070s
3. Michele Alboreto (Ligier-Ford) +0.873
4. Mark Blundell (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +1.435s
5. Gabriele Tarquini (Onyx-Ford) +1.824s
6. Nicola Larini (Osella-Judd) +1.955s
7. Bernd Schneider (EuroBrun-Lamborghini) +2.131s
8. Eddie Cheever (AGS-Ford) +2.186s
9. Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Judd) +2.385s
10. Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) +2.556s
11. Philippe Alliot (Larrousse-Ford) +2.638s
12. Eric van de Poele (AGS-Ford) +2.790s
13. Alex Caffi (Zakspeed-Ford) +2.869s
14. Satoru Nakajima (Ligier-Ford) +2.931s
15. Luis Perez-Sala (Zakspeed-Ford) +3.131s
16. Gregor Foitek (EuroBrun-Lamborghini) +3.257s
17. Jon Beekhuis (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +3.299s
18. Pierre-Henri Raphanel (Coloni-Ford) +4.072s
19. Enrico Bertaggia (Coloni-Ford) +4.382s

How often does an F1 race winner (and current CHAMPIONSHIP LEADER!) have to escape pre-qualifying the race afterwards? I don't think that's ever happened before :lol:

by **Nuppiz** » 06 Aug 2012, 22:02

kostas22 wrote:How often does an F1 race winner (and current CHAMPIONSHIP LEADER!) have to escape pre-qualifying the race afterwards? I don't think that's ever happened before

Well, Sophie Fabron has to do just that in her next GP :lol:

by **darkapprentice77** » 07 Aug 2012, 00:52

We'll pre-qualify eventually...

by **Shizuka** » 07 Aug 2012, 03:48

Goddamn Brabham

by **Flaschenpost** » 07 Aug 2012, 05:27

so, will run imola-quali and race this evening! hopefully tomorrow, you will get updated information about prize money and development opportunities

by **Flaschenpost** » 07 Aug 2012, 05:38

1989 SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX, QUALIFYING RESULTS / FINAL GRID POSITIONS

1. Alain Prost (McLaren-Honda) 1:22.445s
2. Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda) +0.272s
3. Nigel Mansell (Ferrari) +0.330s
4. Gerhard Berger (Ferrari) +0.706s
5. Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) +1.033s
6. Alessandro Nannini (Williams-Renault) +1.101s
7. Stefano Modena (Dallara-Ferrari) +1.602s
8. Martin Brundle (Benetton-Ford) +1.648s
9. Riccardo Patrese (Benetton-Ford) +1.652s
10. Mauricio Gugelmin (March-Judd) +1.716s
11. Andrea de Cesaris (Dallara-Ferrari) +1.836s
12. Pierluigi Martini (March-Judd) +1.908s
13. Derek Warwick (Lotus-Judd) +1.909s
14. Jean Alesi (Tyrrell-Ford) +2.150s
15. Nelson Piquet (Lotus-Judd) +2.153s
16. Johnny Herbert (Tyrrell-Ford) +2.425s
17. Michele Alboreto (Ligier-Ford) +2.469s
18. Roberto Moreno (Arrows-Ford) +2.655s
19. Ivan Capelli (Arrows-Ford) +2.785s
20. Fabrizio Barbazza (Minardi-Ford) +2.847s
21. Mark Blundell (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +2.901s
22. Bertrand Gachot (Minardi-Ford) +2.964s
23. Gabriele Tarquini (Onyx-Ford) +3.419s
24. Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) +3.907s
25. Satoru Nakajima (Ligier-Ford) +4.410s
26. Rene Arnoux (Rial-Judd) +4.473s

27. Jon Beekhuis (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +4.834s
28. Volker Weidler (Rial-Judd) +5.051s

by **Flaschenpost** » 07 Aug 2012, 05:47

SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX 1989, RACE REPORT

START : Prost takes the lead from the start with Senna 2nd, berger 3rd, mansell 4th, nannini 5th

Lap 2 : Senna overtakes his dear friend Alain Prost for the lead!

Lap 3 : Prost back in the lead! With Mansell really close to the McLarens

Lap 5 : Derek Warwick seems to have some technical Problems and makes a long pit stop

Lap 6 : Prost still leading from Senna, Mansell, Berger, Nannini, Modena, Boutsen, Gugelmin, Brundle, Patrese, de Cesaris, Piquet, Alesi, Martini and Herbert in 15th

Lap 12 : First Retirement of the Race is Fabrizio Barbazza in the Minardi

Lap 17 : After McLaren and Ferrai have made their first pitstops its still Prost leading Senna by 4.8 seconds - with Nannini (No Stop) running 3rd, mansell 4th and boutsen 5th

Lap 18 : What a mess!!! Second race of the season - And for the second time it is Prost out of the race in a comfortable lead! Also Gachot has to stop the race in his Minardi!

Lap 19 : After making the grid for the first time this year, Arnoux has now to stop his Rial with Engine-Failure

Lap 20 : Berger pits in for the 2nd time already - has he some problems? possible!

Lap 22 : Last year, they won 15 out of 16 races - Now we can already say, that they won´t beat it - you know what happened - the world champion Ayrton Senna has just parked his McLaren! Giving the lead to Lionheart Nigel Mansell in his Ferrari!

Lap 24 : Nannini - who just ran in 2nd place - is out of it with Engine-Problems - And so is NIGEL MANSELL! Wow, it seems like the topteams REALLY have to improve their reliability! In the lead now is Thierry boutsen - from Stefano Modena - Modena? No, that can´t happen a second time!

Lap 26 : Martini out now - he ran 13th at that point

Lap 29 : Tarquini stops with Technical Problems

Lap 30 : With about half the distance gone (and some more pitstops) it is Riccardo Patrese leading by 6.0 Seconds over Thierry Boutsen in 2nd, with Berger 3rd, de Cesaris 4th, Gugelmin 5th, Brundle 6th, Modena 7th, Piquet 8th, Herbert 9th, Alesi 10th, Moreno 11th, Capelli 12th, Alboreto 13th, Warwick 14th, Johansson 15th

Lap 31 : Ferraris Gerhard Berger takes 2nd Place away from Boutsen, now hunting Patreses Benetton (5.3 seconds gap)

Lap 32 : No, it can´t happen two times in a row - Championship Leader Stefano Modena has to stop his car (he ran down in 7th)

Lap 37 - Mauricio Gugelmin - having a fantastic race and running in 5th - is out of it now with some technical problems - Whilst Boutsen is in the lead again, after Berger and Patrese made their stops - Berger is now 2nd in front of the italian! But 18 Seconds behind Boutsen!

Lap 45 - Boutsen still in the lead - but Berger is faster - the gap is down to 12 seconds now - Patrese in third, de Cesaris 4th, Brundle 5th, Piquet 6th, Alesi 7th, Herbert 8th, Warwick 9th, Moreno 10th, Capelli 11th, Alboreto 12th, Blundell 13th, Johansson 14th and Nakajima 15th

Lap 48 - After that Wonder of Brazil - its a Double-DNF at Imola : De Cesaris is out

Lap 51 : With 10 laps to go, Berger closed the Gap to 7.5 seconds and is at least half a second quicker per lap - can he, or can´t he?

Lap 53 : With points out of sight anyway, Capelli has to stop his Arrows

Lap 56 : What a shame - looking for his first point in formula one, Young french talent Jean Alesi has to stop with only 5 laps to go!

Lap 57 : Alboreto has to stop his Ligier with a failing engine (running 9th)

Lap 59 : Oh No! What a hard day for Tyrrell! Now its Herbert out looking for that point in 6th! And also Piquet is out! Lots of trouble here with only 2 laps to go! Boutsen leads by 5.6 - looks like he is safe! But it also looked safe at Rio!

Lap 60 : Another unlucky Day for Martin Brundle! Engines blowing up all the way now!

Lap 61 : How unludky can you be?????? Leading the first two races into the last lap - getting nothing out of it - you call it unlucky? you call it a shame? i call it Thierry Boutsen!!! Engine on Fire!

FINISH : Berger takes the victory in front of the Tifosi! Congratulations!

1989 SAN MARINO GRAND PRIX, IMOLA, OFFICIAL RACE RESULT

1. Gerhard Berger (Ferrari) 1:30:21.128s
2. Riccardo Patrese (Benetton-Ford) +13.617s
3. Derek Warwick (Lotus-Judd) +1:17.100s
4. Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1 Lap
5. Roberto Moreno (Arrows-Ford) 1 Lap
6. Mark Blundell (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) 1 Lap
7. Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1 Lap
8. Martin Brundle (Benetton-Ford) 2 Laps
9. Satoru Nakajima (Ligier-Ford) 2 Laps
10. Nelson Piquet (Lotus-Judd) 4 Laps
11. Johnny Herbert (Tyrrell-Ford) 4 Laps
12. Michele Alboreto (Ligier-Ford) 6 Laps
13. Jean Alesi (Tyrrell-Ford) 7 Laps

DNF Ivan Capelli (Arrows-Ford) Transmission
DNF Andrea de Cesaris (Dallara-Ferrari) Loose Wheel
DNF Mauricio Gugelmin (March-Judd) Transmission
DNF Stefano Modeno (Dallara-Ferrari) Transmission
DNF Gabriele Tarquini (Onyx-Ford) Engine
DNF Pierluigi Martini (March-Judd) Oil Leak
DNF Nigel Mansell (Ferrari) Engine
DNF Alessandro Nannini (Williams-Renault) Engine
DNF Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda) Puncture
DNF Alain Prost (McLaren-Honda) Engine
DNF Rene Arnoux (Rial-Judd) Engine
DNF Bertrand Gachot (Minardi-Ford) Loose Wheel
DNF Fabrizio Barbazza (Minardi-Ford) Puncture

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 07 Aug 2012, 07:08

For bathplug's sake.

by **AdrianSutil** » 07 Aug 2012, 07:08

Gachot speaking, as the race continues behind him:
It's a shame to be out early, and me and Fabritzio have struggled for grip all week. Time to leave early and focus on the next race.

by **Ataxia** » 07 Aug 2012, 07:48

Jacques Couteau wrote:What eez thees sheet? I will see ze bottom of a few bouteilles zis evening...

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