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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby eurobrun » 15 Jun 2012, 20:54

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WaffleCat wrote:Trying to force myself to think that Midland F1 actually existed.For some odd reason,however,I can still remember the "Rhino's" sponsor on the side of the car.

And the 'Lost Boys' sponsored front wing. Which was quite apt considering the drivers spent more time crashing into each other/things/retiring rather than racing...


I still don't know what Lost Boys is.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby dr-baker » 15 Jun 2012, 20:58

eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:Trying to force myself to think that Midland F1 actually existed.For some odd reason,however,I can still remember the "Rhino's" sponsor on the side of the car.

And the 'Lost Boys' sponsored front wing. Which was quite apt considering the drivers spent more time crashing into each other/things/retiring rather than racing...


I still don't know what Lost Boys is.

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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby AdrianSutil » 16 Jun 2012, 00:23

eurobrun wrote:
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WaffleCat wrote:Trying to force myself to think that Midland F1 actually existed.For some odd reason,however,I can still remember the "Rhino's" sponsor on the side of the car.

And the 'Lost Boys' sponsored front wing. Which was quite apt considering the drivers spent more time crashing into each other/things/retiring rather than racing...


I still don't know what Lost Boys is.

Well a quick Google search returned three possibilities:

*The film directed by Joel Schumacher so doubt that.
*The 'Lost Boys' is an organization about the Sudanese children. So war, famine, child soldiers etc. A possibility, Midland couldve been supporting an African charity.
*A visual effects company. Seems the most likely.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Ataxia » 16 Jun 2012, 00:35

They sponsored Arrows whilst Verstappen was there...

According to this article, they are a 'a leading company with experience in all aspects of New Media and internet'...
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby David AGS » 18 Jun 2012, 11:03

They also sponsored Minardi in 2005 with Albers.

Lost Boys was on the front wing, also on barge boards and side of rear wing. In some cases they had LB Icon which is the acronym of the company.

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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby 1993DonningtonNo1 » 30 Jun 2012, 18:19

Toni Branca, so forgettable that even 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver' overlooks him and I'm talking about a book that includes drivers like Karl Oppitzhauzer and the late Ricardo Londono to name but a few, yet they never started a grand prix and he started 3!
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby WaffleCat » 30 Jun 2012, 20:26

1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:Toni Branca, so forgettable that even 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver' overlooks him and I'm talking about a book that includes drivers like Karl Oppitzhauzer and the late Ricardo Londono to name but a few, yet they never started a grand prix and he started 3!


Karl Oppo-who? Toni Branca is actually one driver that sticks out in my mind when doing alternate championships or when I think about 1950's F1.And so is Desmond Titterington(for obvious reasons)
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby 1993DonningtonNo1 » 30 Jun 2012, 20:51

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1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:Toni Branca, so forgettable that even 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver' overlooks him and I'm talking about a book that includes drivers like Karl Oppitzhauzer and the late Ricardo Londono to name but a few, yet they never started a grand prix and he started 3!


Karl Oppo-who? Toni Branca is actually one driver that sticks out in my mind when doing alternate championships or when I think about 1950's F1.And so is Desmond Titterington(for obvious reasons)


That's what I mean, when Philip Raby was writing 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver', he somehow managed to overlook a Swiss driver with 3 GP starts to his name and a best result that is now worth a solitary point these days (Toni Branca) whilst somehow remembering an Austrian driver who had his entry refused because he was simply too unknown and too inexperienced (Karl Oppitzhauzer, intended to drive a March as team-mate to Otto Stuppacher's Tyrrell at their home grand prix in 1976)
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby eurobrun » 30 Jun 2012, 20:53

1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:
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1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:Toni Branca, so forgettable that even 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver' overlooks him and I'm talking about a book that includes drivers like Karl Oppitzhauzer and the late Ricardo Londono to name but a few, yet they never started a grand prix and he started 3!


Karl Oppo-who? Toni Branca is actually one driver that sticks out in my mind when doing alternate championships or when I think about 1950's F1.And so is Desmond Titterington(for obvious reasons)


That's what I mean, when Philip Raby was writing 'Grand Prix: Driver by Driver', he somehow managed to overlook a Swiss driver with 3 GP starts to his name and a best result that is now worth a solitary point these days (Toni Branca) whilst somehow remembering an Austrian driver who had his entry refused because he was simply too unknown and too inexperienced (Karl Oppitzhauzer, intended to drive a March as team-mate to Otto Stuppacher's Tyrrell at their home grand prix in 1976)


Did the book have Dries Van der Lof in it?
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby 1993DonningtonNo1 » 30 Jun 2012, 21:54

Yes it has got Dries van der Lof in it, surprised no one on here knows about it, it's been out since 2007. Obviously it was published before the last race of that season because it includes all the newcomers from that year (even Markus Winkelhock) with the exception of Kazuki Nakajima.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby James1978 » 15 Jul 2012, 19:51

1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:Yes it has got Dries van der Lof in it, surprised no one on here knows about it, it's been out since 2007. Obviously it was published before the last race of that season because it includes all the newcomers from that year (even Markus Winkelhock) with the exception of Kazuki Nakajima.


That's strange becuase I have the book and it refers to Raikkonen as the 2007 WDC!! (So there's no excuse for missing Nakajima apart from the fact he was totally forgettable too)! :)
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 17 Jul 2012, 00:52

James1978 wrote:(So there's no excuse for missing Nakajima apart from the fact he was totally forgettable too)! :)

Williams pit crew of Brasilian GP 2007 surely remember him! ;)
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby 1993DonningtonNo1 » 20 Jul 2012, 05:06

Well, somehow Philip Raby still managed to overlook Kazuki Nakajima as well as Toni Branca!
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby fjackdaw » 21 Jul 2012, 07:17

Charles Pic.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby BlindCaveSalamander » 21 Jul 2012, 20:34

fjackdaw wrote:Charles Pic.


On the contrary, thanks to AndreaModa's avatar, Charles Pic is (for me, at least), the most memorable of the Virgin/Marussia second drivers.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby AdrianSutil » 21 Jul 2012, 20:44

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:Charles Pic.


On the contrary, thanks to AndreaModa's avatar, Charles Pic is (for me, at least), the most memorable of the Virgin/Marussia second drivers.

Well yeah, the fact the kid's got a bit of talent too helps. But we said that about D'Ambrosio...
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby pasta_maldonado » 21 Jul 2012, 23:23

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:Charles Pic.


On the contrary, thanks to AndreaModa's avatar, Charles Pic is (for me, at least), the most memorable of the Virgin/Marussia second drivers.

Well yeah, the fact the kid's got a bit of talent too helps. But we said that about D'Ambrosio...

One day, he'll be on a Custard ad :lol:
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 20 Dec 2012, 06:59

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:Charles Pic.


On the contrary, thanks to AndreaModa's avatar, Charles Pic is (for me, at least), the most memorable of the Virgin/Marussia second drivers.

I think that Pic is not so forgettable. He's the only second driver of Virgin/Marussia, who has been able to be in Formula 1 for a second season after racing a season with Marussia.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby WaffleCat » 20 Dec 2012, 09:54

I forget Christian Klien's short stint with HRT in 2010.

I also forgot for a while that Nick Heidfeld drove for Jordan in 2004'but maybe because he was slightly boring.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby FullMetalJack » 20 Dec 2012, 10:17

WaffleCat wrote:I also forgot for a while that Nick Heidfeld drove for Jordan in 2004'but maybe because he was slightly boring.


Did you learn NOTHING from my Nick Heidfeld is NOT boring signature I had last year?

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:Charles Pic.


On the contrary, thanks to AndreaModa's avatar, Charles Pic is (for me, at least), the most memorable of the Virgin/Marussia second drivers.

Well yeah, the fact the kid's got a bit of talent too helps. But we said that about D'Ambrosio...


Pic isn't forgettable because of the puns, and the fact that he's got at least one more season.

D'Ambrosio has been practically immortalized thanks to The F1 Slate.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby BlindCaveSalamander » 20 Dec 2012, 11:01

redbulljack14 wrote:D'Ambrosio has been practically immortalized thanks to The F1 Slate.


Which leaves Lucas Di Grassi as the most anonymous Virgin/Marussia driver. But he still had that ridiculous warmup lap crash in Suzuka...
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Pointrox » 21 Dec 2012, 02:30

Lucas di Grassi.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 21 Dec 2012, 02:31

I don't remember if he was mentioned before, but I think that Anthony Davidson was enough forgettable.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby East Londoner » 21 Dec 2012, 08:02

Tarso Marques. All he ever did was trundle around at the back of the field in a Minardi. Reportedly, he didn't even bring any money/sponsorship with him during 2001...
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 21 Dec 2012, 08:11

East Londoner wrote:Tarso Marques. All he ever did was trundle around at the back of the field in a Minardi. Reportedly, he didn't even bring any money/sponsorship with him during 2001...

He was Alonso's teammate, wasn't he? The one before Yoong?
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby This » 21 Dec 2012, 08:36

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East Londoner wrote:Tarso Marques. All he ever did was trundle around at the back of the field in a Minardi. Reportedly, he didn't even bring any money/sponsorship with him during 2001...

He was Alonso's teammate, wasn't he? The one before Yoong?

More than that, he has once been teammate with the greatest driver F1 has ever produced, Ukyo Katayama.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 21 Dec 2012, 09:55

This wrote:
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East Londoner wrote:Tarso Marques. All he ever did was trundle around at the back of the field in a Minardi. Reportedly, he didn't even bring any money/sponsorship with him during 2001...

He was Alonso's teammate, wasn't he? The one before Yoong?

More than that, he has once been teammate with the greatest driver F1 has ever produced, Ukyo Katayama.
And he has been replaced by Giovanni Lavaggi.

I didn't remember it, but I obviously reminded that Katayama is the second-best F1 driver that motorsport has ever produced (he can't be better than HWNSNBM, it would be heresy).
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

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Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
This wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:He was Alonso's teammate, wasn't he? The one before Yoong?

More than that, he has once been teammate with the greatest driver F1 has ever produced, Ukyo Katayama.
And he has been replaced by Giovanni Lavaggi.

I didn't remember it, but I obviously reminded that Katayama is the second-best F1 driver that motorsport has ever produced (he can't be better than HWNSNBM, it would be heresy).


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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 21 Dec 2012, 10:20

This wrote:You dare to argue with Murray Walker?

Naturally not: he said it in 1994, and because it would have taken ten years before HWNSNBM had his F1 debut, it wasn't heretic saying it at that time. ;)
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby dr-baker » 22 Dec 2012, 09:20

Bernard Charles Ecclestone. Only because he is remembered what whatever it was he did after being a reject F1 driver...
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby darkapprentice77 » 23 Dec 2012, 08:48

I totally forgot that Panis raced in 2003.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 24 Dec 2012, 03:02

darkapprentice77 wrote:I totally forgot that Panis raced in 2003.

Me too.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby James1978 » 24 Dec 2012, 06:13

In all honesty I reckon Panis was pretty forgettable since he made his comeback from the Canada injury, with perhaps the exception of early 2001.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby East Londoner » 24 Dec 2012, 07:32

James1978 wrote:In all honesty I reckon Panis was pretty forgettable since he made his comeback from the Canada injury, with perhaps the exception of early 2001.


Admitedly, he was stuck with the 1998 Prost, which had the aerodynamic capabilities of concrete and appalling reliability to boot as well. After that year though, I'd say you're spot on.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Stramala » 24 Dec 2012, 07:48

Giorgio Pantano. Timo Glock was his replacement at Jordan half way through 2003 or 2004 I believe?
Ernesto Brambilla, the less successful brother of Vittorio.
Andrea Chiesa. No relation to Enrico.
Massimiliano Papis. Son-in-law of Emerson Fittipaldi, godson of Alex Zanardi, but still inherited none of their talent.
Paolo Barilla. At least Minardi's catering will have been decent in the late 80s.
Kenny Acheson. I bet he's a Sunderland fan now.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 24 Dec 2012, 07:53

kostas22 wrote:Massimiliano Papis. Son-in-law of Emerson Fittipaldi, godson of Alex Zanardi, but still inherited none of their talent.

I don't think it's easy to forget the only driver who was able to be slower than Taki Inoue. :D
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby andrew2209 » 02 Jan 2013, 06:41

A few drivers I think are forgettable (most have probably been mentioned):
Lucas di Grassi
Robert Doornbos
Nicolas Kiesa
Ralph Firman
Tomáš Enge
Jan Magnussen
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby pi314159 » 02 Jan 2013, 06:49

Michael Bartels and Franck Lagorce
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby Faustus » 02 Jan 2013, 21:29

andrew2209 wrote:Andrea Chiesa. No relation to Enrico.


Excuse the ignorance, but who is/was Enrico Chiesa?

andrew2209 wrote:Paolo Barilla. At least Minardi's catering will have been decent in the late 80s.


I heard a very short interview with him on BBC Radio 4 's the Food Programme. Apparently he is now the VP of Barilla and Barilla is the the world's biggest pasta manufacturer, by quantity produced. Sadly there was no mention of his motorsports career.
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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Postby UgncreativeUsergname » 03 Jan 2013, 02:28

Faustus wrote:Excuse the ignorance, but who is/was Enrico Chiesa?

Wikipedia says he was some footballer.
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