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by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Dec 2010, 06:49

With not many races left of the 2010 season I think it's time we moved onto the new year, with events like the Daytona 24 Hours and the Dakar rally just over the other side of Hogmanay, it would be a good idea to take note of any "Qualified" F1 Rejects taking part in the events of the 2011 season.

Allan McNish(Toyota 2002) has not been confirmed but is more than likely to be driving the new Audi R18 at Le Mans and its associated endurance races in the Intercontinental Le Mans Challenge, which will visit Imola and Estoril.

There are currently no Rejects on the Daytona 24 Hour entry list, nor for that matter, Mark Blundell or Martin Brundle.

by **ADx_Wales** » 27 Dec 2010, 02:42

Jan Lammers

Currently driving in the Trucks category, Between Argentina and Chile for the 2011 edition of the "Dakar" Rally, its been 3 years since the event relocated from the original venue that gives this race it's name. There are 70 other Trucks taking part in this class.

Lammers is the only Reject taking part. Ex-Rally Legend Carlos Sainz, and Indycar competitor Robby Gordon are probably the two highly regarded names, outside of the Many constructors making an effort in the Andes and through the Amazon.

by **ADx_Wales** » 27 Dec 2010, 03:55

Jan Magnussen

Taking part in the GT Class of the Rolex 24 Hours, The France Family's answer to endurance and sportscar racing, in a Chevy Camaro, the Ex-McLaren and Stewart driver is currently the only Reject in the still growing entry list.

Martin Brundle is now down on print in the same "Car" as Mark Blundell, Riccardo Zonta is also taking part.

by **tommykl** » 27 Dec 2010, 04:10

Justin Wilson is again taking part in IndyCar for Dreyer & Reinbold.

by **Yannick** » 31 Dec 2010, 10:17

Chinese F1 Idol Ho Pin Tung is about to run in IndyCars, whilst Scott Speed, who is eligible to the site, has been quoted along the lines of IndyCar being too dangerous and not enough of a challenge for him.

by **thehemogoblin** » 31 Dec 2010, 10:43

Yannick wrote:Chinese F1 Idol Ho Pin Tung is about to run in IndyCars, whilst Scott Speed, who is eligible to the site, has been quoted along the lines of IndyCar being too dangerous and not enough of a challenge for him.

I was Ho-pin and praying this was a done deal.

by **Cynon** » 31 Dec 2010, 14:32

Eliseo Salazar

Was signed to drive for Robby Gordon in the Dakar Rally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICq30KjF1pE&feature=sub

Yannick wrote:Chinese F1 Idol Ho Pin Tung is about to run in IndyCars, whilst Scott Speed, who is eligible to the site, has been quoted along the lines of IndyCar being too dangerous and not enough of a challenge for him.

Scott Speed

Follows in the footsteps of Ayrton Senna and wusses out of a drive in IndyCar.

by **tommykl** » 31 Dec 2010, 18:38

Eliseo Salazar isn't an F1 Reject. Still, interesting news...

Yannick wrote:Chinese F1 Idol

*cue theme song*

by **watka** » 02 Jan 2011, 07:48

tommykl wrote:Eliseo Salazar isn't an F1 Reject. Still, interesting news...
Yannick wrote:Chinese F1 Idol
*cue theme song*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCFox8IjmJ4

by **Pointrox** » 02 Jan 2011, 09:09

HWNSNBM
Intercontinental Le Mans Cup (ILMC)

Atlas EFX hopes to run a Panoz Abruzzi "Spirit of Le Mans" in ILMC next year.
The Czech team, who participated in the Le Mans Series with a Saleen S7R in 2010, could take over the formal entry of Panoz in Europe. A parallel program with the Abruzzi in GT Endurance, Norbert Walchhofer also plans to invest in the LM P1 class. The boss of Atlas EFX approached Creation Autosportif team with whom he might enter an LM P1. The British team have five entries in the 24 Hours of Le Mans with their own prototype, which could soon be revived. Creation Autosportif would provide technical support for the Intercontinental Le Mans Cup events, which will include the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 2011.

For drivers, the Dutchman Carlo van Dam retains his place in the team. Discussions are ongoing with former Formula 1 driver Zsolt Baumgartner, and with James Winslow who was drove in the American Indy Lights Championship 2010. Adam Lacko Stephane Lémeret and also appear on the list of prospective drivers.

Today's papayas brought to you by Julien Hergault.
I really hope that HWNSNBM will make his great comeback to serious racing soon

by **This** » 04 Jan 2011, 10:44

Cynon wrote:Eliseo Salazar

Was signed to drive for Robby Gordon in the Dakar Rally.

and look who i found!

http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2011/us/rider/344.html

by **Waris** » 07 Jan 2011, 22:18

ADx_Wales wrote:its [sic] been 3 years since the event relocated from the original venue that gives this race it's [sic] name.

Is it ever going back to the original route??

by **Phoenix** » 08 Jan 2011, 03:14

Waris wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:its [sic] been 3 years since the event relocated from the original venue that gives this race it's [sic] name.

Is it ever going back to the original route??

When we live in a better world without terrorism, then yes.

by **Waris** » 09 Jan 2011, 05:19

Phoenix wrote:
Waris wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:its [sic] been 3 years since the event relocated from the original venue that gives this race it's [sic] name.

Is it ever going back to the original route??

When we live in a better world without terrorism, then yes.

But terrorism existed when it was still in Africa. If I remember correctly, it was moved due to a very specific threat (some violent gang planning attacks on participants or something). Presumably this means that threat is still there? Or are they just being careful?

by **AndreaModa** » 09 Jan 2011, 05:40

I think I'm right in believing it was unrest within Sengal, the capital of which is of course Dakar, which jeopardised the event and resulted in it moving to South America. Whether stability has been restored or not would be a big indicator of whether the route would return to its original format, and with no sign of the route changing, I imagine the unrest is still very much a big threat.

by **This** » 09 Jan 2011, 14:17

[quoteits [sic] been 3 years since the event relocated from the original venue that gives this race it's [sic] name.[/quote]

Is it ever going back to the original route??[/quote]
When we live in a better world without terrorism, then yes.[/quote]

But terrorism existed when it was still in Africa. If I remember correctly, it was moved due to a very specific threat (some violent gang planning attacks on participants or something). Presumably this means that threat is still there? Or are they just being careful?[/quote]
every year there still is a similar rally that takes the original route, and this one has never encountered any problems, so i don't know what the real problem was... , there seems to be lots of problems with lots of countries, which they now all avoid - except one, and that's mauritania - still they haven't had problems since. (i haven't heard about problems with senegal, but the mysterious cancelling of the '24 hours of dakar' endurance race might have something to do with that as well?) The organisers claim that is is to 'having more respect towards the countries they pass' but that might be PR-talk. Of course there are less participants, and thus less chanche of problems. The most important participants being the schlesser-team, but this alternative rally is growing in popularity, which might become a problem sooner or later.

by **Phoenix** » 09 Jan 2011, 23:31

I was just being sarcastic. But I'm affraid that at this rate my statement may well become true

by **DanielPT** » 11 Jan 2011, 22:14

Update on Jan Lammers: At the end of stage 8, Lammers is classified a respectable 18th, 17 hours and 42 minutes off the leader's time. In 24 classified trucks, despite starting 44 in stage 9.

by **This** » 12 Jan 2011, 09:45

fontana has already retired (still, fontana driving a mcrae buggy is an epic combination)

while salazar is doing 'reasonable' so far (but driving a hummer is a big no, unless you're kobayashi, maybe)

by **P_Friesacher** » 12 Jan 2011, 11:52

GREAT news for all currently unempolyed rejects - A1GP might be coming back in a new shape! http://www.a10worldseries.com/

by **dr-baker** » 12 Jan 2011, 21:06

P_Friesacher wrote:GREAT news for all currently unempolyed rejects - A1GP might be coming back in a new shape! http://www.a10worldseries.com/

NO WAY! I'm so excited and I just can't hide it!

Seroiusly, I was a great fan of the original A1 GP, seeing every Brands Hatch round, and already want to know more about this new series!

by **dr-baker** » 13 Jan 2011, 22:49

dr-baker wrote:
P_Friesacher wrote:GREAT news for all currently unempolyed rejects - A1GP might be coming back in a new shape! http://www.a10worldseries.com/

NO WAY! I'm so excited and I just can't hide it!

Seroiusly, I was a great fan of the original A1 GP, seeing every Brands Hatch round, and already want to know more about this new series!

There was a countdown on this website, counting down to 10:30 am GMT. It is now 12:50 GMT (near enough) and still no info. What's going on? I NEED HELP! :twisted:

by **DanielPT** » 13 Jan 2011, 22:58

They just like teasing I guess. It says only that is a V10 600 BHP, which is, comparing to the new paltry 4 cylinder 750 BHP Formula 1 engine, poor. It will sound good, though... More to come tomorrow, they say. But taking only on their web page, they will probably run out of money before the first race starts.

by **dr-baker** » 14 Jan 2011, 04:05

Oh yeah, it's only Thursday today isn't it? It counts down to 10:30 am today then says more info on Friday... Why? It's messing with my head!

by **DanielPT** » 14 Jan 2011, 21:48

They have now updated the page and posted a pic of the engine. Can't hear it though. My IE keeps complaining about the page having a problem. And still looks seriously outdated for a new page... More to come next week, anyway.

by **dr-baker** » 14 Jan 2011, 22:52

I was able to hear it and it sounds pretty decent. And it's on YouTube. But no mention yet of whether it is indeed a continuation of the A1 GP concept and whether they are using the old A1 GP chassis, or perhaps old ChampCar chassis.

Is anybody able to recognise whether it is a rebadged A1 GP/ChampCar/whatever engine or whether it is a brand new design?

by **dr-baker** » 15 Jan 2011, 03:38

A bit of Google searching via other forums seem to suggest that the V10 is an LMP Judd. IF this is the case, at least the engine should be solidly built and reliable, as all sportscar engines should be...

by **Cynon** » 15 Jan 2011, 06:37

Tomas Enge and Bernd Schneider are running the Dubai 24 Hours sportscar race...

Link

...other rejects from other series... Michael Waltrip (lucked into his whole NASCAR career, tore a ton of cars up due to incompetence for over 20 years), Jarek Janis (Champ Car, one start...), Boris Said (son of a former F1 driver, ex-TransAm driver and current NASCAR driver), Matt Halliday (Champ Car, failed), Andreas Wirth (Champ Car REJECT, teamed with Bernd Schneider no less!)... and is Jeroen Bleekemolen the son of Michael Bleekemolen? ... and is Francesco Pastorelli related to Champ Car failure Nicky Pastorelli? ...and there's a Carsten Tilke on there...

In other interest, there is an all-female team with Cyndie Alleman, Amandine Foulard, Jade Handi, and Corentine Quiniou in the field as well.

by **Phoenix** » 15 Jan 2011, 08:25

And there's Cora Schumacher too...

by **tommykl** » 15 Jan 2011, 17:35

Cynon wrote:and is Jeroen Bleekemolen the son of Michael Bleekemolen?

Yes he is.

by **golic_2004** » 16 Jan 2011, 05:26

Cynon wrote:Eliseo Salazar

Was signed to drive for Robby Gordon in the Dakar Rally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICq30KjF1pE&feature=sub

Yannick wrote:Chinese F1 Idol Ho Pin Tung is about to run in IndyCars, whilst Scott Speed, who is eligible to the site, has been quoted along the lines of IndyCar being too dangerous and not enough of a challenge for him.

Scott Speed

Follows in the footsteps of Ayrton Senna and wusses out of a drive in IndyCar.

Speed could become a forgotten man not only in American motorsport but in world motorsport generally. Indeed he has!

by **dr-baker** » 17 Jan 2011, 06:18

A10 World Series have now announced the following information:

20 Races spanning the globe:

10 Host Countries Within:
Africa
Asia
Central America
Europe
Oceania
South America
The Middle East

http://www.a10worldseries.com/globalseries.php

I'm already feeling that this could be rejectworthy. F1 in its first 10 years or so was predominantly Europe-based, Superleague is still very much Europe-based and currently thriving, A1 GP started big and only lasted 4 seasons before going bankrupt. Will A10 WS survive being so big so quickly or is it already too much like its predecessor, A1 GP? And which countries are we guessing they are targeting? My guess is that they will begin in England, as A1 and F1 did.

And I'll suspect they'll attract a lot of F1 Reject drivers.

by **P_Friesacher** » 17 Jan 2011, 06:59

dr-baker wrote:
20 Races spanning the globe:

And which countries are we guessing they are targeting?

Apart from the fact that this looks depressingly like A1GP's last "calendar" (this one), my guesseswould be that Africa could only be Durban or Kyalami (or, maybe, and even more rejectworty, Marrekech), Asia will probalby be Lippo Village, Sentul, Sepang and/or some cinese track you have never heard of and will never hear of angain after the race. Central America can only mean Mexico, so it's either Hermanos Rodriguez or Parque Fundidora (if that track still exists). Europe could be too much to speculate on, but I would guess no current F1 tracks. My guess is also that there will be at least one race in England /Brands Hatch or the new Snetterton one), and one in the Netherlands, probalby Zandvoort, since Assen already has Superleague. Might be one in Portimao, too. Oceania will probalby be one in either Phillip Island or Eastern Creek, since I doubt Surfers Paradise would come anywhere near the concept after what happened in 2009. Perhaps the new track built with A1GP in Mind in Hapton Downs, New Zealand might also feature on the schedule? South America will very probalby be something in Brazil, probalby Interlagos. Or IndyCar support in the Sao Paulo street race, who knows. Improbable as it is, Potrero de los Funes would also be great. Middle East might be anything, but my guess is one of the F1-less tracks in Dubai and/or Qatar. So, my guess schedule:

R1, October: Zandvoort
R2, October: Lippo Village
R3, November: Chongqing Intl. Speedway
R4, December: Eastern Creek
R5, December: Hampton Downs
R6, January: Dubai
R7, February: Durban
R8, March: Hermanos Rodriguez
R9, March: Streets of Sao Paulo
R10, April: Snetterton

What are other forum members' guesses?

dr-baker wrote:And I'll suspect they'll attract a lot of F1 Reject drivers.

Let's hope so - but if they are using A1's genious country based system, then what could possibly go wrong?

by **watka** » 17 Jan 2011, 08:18

An international series with a track with "village" in it's name would be worrying.

by **golic_2004** » 17 Jan 2011, 10:19

watka wrote:An international series with a track with "village" in it's name would be worrying.

Quite

by **DanielPT** » 17 Jan 2011, 20:50

Can it be that A1GP people are behind it? That would be... Reject! :lol:

About Dakar, it looks like Eliseo Salazar retired on Stage 8. In Castrol Rankings Dakar 2011 race results is written that the cause of his retirement was "Spun off"... Can't see yet how Jan Lammers finished.

EDIT: I guess this partly answers it. So, it is meant to replace A1GP...

http://a1.gpgrid.com/2011/01/15/new-web ... ld-series/

by **DanielPT** » 19 Jan 2011, 20:49

Here goes some more:
- 5 sessions on saturday, 3 are qualifying sessions;
- 2 races, one in the morning and another 65 minute race (probably afternoon).

Lots of racing. Don't need any support races like that

. Next up, pit stops...

http://www.a10ws.com/raceformats.php

by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2011, 21:34

It is pretty rejectful - all this dripfeeding of information from A10 WS. Information has been slowly coming since the end of last week, and there still isn't enough information for Autosport to yet write anything up about it (probably). So who's involved? What chassis is it? Which countries are hosting races? When's the first race? How many teams? And yet they have said that there are 20 races in 10 countries etc., but it's still not really telling us anything at all! Just get on and spit it out!

by **MinardiFan95** » 20 Jan 2011, 15:13

Monte Carlo Rally

Stephane Sarrazin is currently in 4th place after day 1 of the Monte Carlo Rally, 55.5 seconds behind leader Juho Hanninen and only .2 of a second behind 2003 World Rally Champion Petter Solberg. Former Andrea Moda, Footwork Arrows, Osella and Dallara driver Alex Caffi is in 14th place, 6 minutes and 29 seconds behind Hanninen.

by **Ed24** » 21 Jan 2011, 01:03

Today is Yuji Ide's 36th birthday!

EDIT: Oops, missed the other thread

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