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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Wizzie » 08 Nov 2011, 06:57

I get the feeling the MRT merger was part of the reason this budget cap was introduced :oops:
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 08 Nov 2011, 07:08

OK, just to clarify, If I have 1000 credits, sell my chassis for 800 to have 1800 credits, buy another chassis for 700, would I have 1000 credits due to the budget cap?
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Pointrox » 08 Nov 2011, 09:14

Shonan DMS signs Albertini
Francois Albertini, well-known racing driver and enterpreneur has been signed by Shonan DMS to race in F1RWRS.
This year Albertini has been racing in the Superleague Formula series representing Team Monaco but made his reputation in French Formula 3 in 1998 after a successful career in French Touring Car Championship in 1997.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 08 Nov 2011, 09:27

JeremyMcClean wrote:OK, just to clarify, If I have 1000 credits, sell my chassis for 800 to have 1800 credits, buy another chassis for 700, would I have 1000 credits due to the budget cap?


Yes.

Wizzie wrote:I get the feeling the MRT merger was part of the reason this budget cap was introduced :oops:


Hahaha... not quite. Let me explain what happened. The only teams to meet the Cap are Gillet and Dagnall at the moment. As Dagnall won both championships and with a substantial points amount the result was... Dagnall had practically as double as credits as Gillet and almost 10 times what a small team like Dofasco had!! So it wasn´t fair, that would give me an enormous advantage and would only make Dagnall´s domination in 2014 even bigger. So, seeing as some other teams nearly reach 1000 credits (MRT is one of them), and that is a good ammount of credits to operate, I decided to introduce the budget cap for the good of the series and the fun we all have with it.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby AndreaModa » 08 Nov 2011, 10:02

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I get the feeling the MRT merger was part of the reason this budget cap was introduced :oops:


Hahaha... not quite. Let me explain what happened. The only teams to meet the Cap are Gillet and Dagnall at the moment. As Dagnall won both championships and with a substantial points amount the result was... Dagnall had practically as double as credits as Gillet and almost 10 times what a small team like Dofasco had!! So it wasn´t fair, that would give me an enormous advantage and would only make Dagnall´s domination in 2014 even bigger. So, seeing as some other teams nearly reach 1000 credits (MRT is one of them), and that is a good ammount of credits to operate, I decided to introduce the budget cap for the good of the series and the fun we all have with it.


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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby AdrianSutil » 08 Nov 2011, 10:27

MA-Racing: Alexey to start first race.

Alexey Pchelintsev has been given the earliest opportunity to show his worth in F1RWRS, by starting the first event alongside Matthias Valsattis. "Its been difficult trying to find experienced drivers, so to fill the gap for the first few events, Alexey will pilot our second car. I have faith in his skill and confidence. I'm not asking for miracles straight away, but his target is to he as close to Valsattis as possible. We will continue to search for a more experienced driver, but if Alexey proves himself quickly, I have no problems keeping him in the car for the remainder of the season."
Mr.Alexander was also eagerly awaiting news on the new chassis and engine list, as the season draws ever closer. "We have to aim for a fast package rathan than a reliable one. It's all well and good having reliability, but if your not fast enough to get out of pre-qualifying, what's the point in having it. I'd rather qualify for eddy race and never finish them then never qualify."
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 06:28

F1RWRS 2014 - Pre-Season Accounting Overview.

Dagnall - 1000 Cr.
Gillet - 1000 Cr.
HRT - 725 Cr.
Jones - 595 Cr.
Arrowtech - 445 Cr.
Sunshine - 580 Cr.
ARC - 340 Cr.
GRM - 335 Cr.
Prospec - 270 Cr.
Foxdale - 875 Cr.
Kamaha - 500 Cr.
MRT - 900 Cr.
Phoenix - 400 Cr.
Trueba - 220 Cr.
Tropico - 340 Cr.
Dofasco - 200 Cr.
Mitie Aviation - 1000 Cr. (Must purchase chassis and engine)
Acuri - 1000 Cr. (Must purchase chassis and engine)
Shonan DMS - 1000 Cr. (Must purchase chassis and engine)
Fmecha´s team - 1000 Cr. (not named yet)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Wizzie » 10 Nov 2011, 06:34

I can't help but feel that your calculations are vastly different to mine because when the TMLW and I calculated our budgets for 2014, MRT had close to 1400 credits. :|
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 06:50

2014 SEASON RULES (Small updates over 2013 rules)

* Every new team starts with 1000 Credits. Every new team must purchase a chassis and engine. This is mandatory.

* Any given chassis will be available to ONE team. Any given engine will be available to TWO teams at a time.

* You can only change your chassis or engine at the END of the season. This is once you read this post, up to the start of pre-season testing. Your chassis and/or engine will be sold back to the manufacturer for HALF the price you paid for it, regardless of the updates you made. Reliability points are bought to your chassis (so you will keep the reliability points purchased when you buy a new engine), Engine power points are bought to your engine (So you will keep the extra Power until you sell your engine). Example: If you bought LIFE W12 Engine for 150 Credits, You sell it for 75, even if you bought extra power in the past. However, if the new engine you buy has 10000 reliability points instead of 16000, the reliability points bought in the past will still count.

* The credits you earn (see Prize System below) are only available at the end of the season, but you can update your car between the end of a race and the start of pre-qualifying of the next race. Credits you earn through PAY DRIVERS are available at the end of a 4 race cycle, so, if you start using a Pay Driver through rounds 2 to 5, you will have credits available at the end of round 4, and at the end of round 8.

PRIZES

Drivers Championship

1st -- 300 credits
2nd -- 200
3rd -- 125
4th -- 75
5th -- 50
6th -- 30
7th -- 25
8th -- 20
9th -- 10
10th -- 5

Teams Championship

1st -- 300 credits
2nd -- 200
3rd -- 125
4th -- 75
5th -- 50
6th -- 30
7th -- 25
8th -- 20
9th -- 10
10th -- 5

Plus an extra of 5 Credits per point earnt.

ROTR -- 10 credits
ROTY -- 200 credits
2nd ROTY -- 100 credits
3rd ROTY -- 50 credits
Pole Position -- 25 credits
Fastest Lap -- 10 credits

TV Rights - 200 credits (available only to the teams continuing into 2015 season, regardless of performance).

* DRIVERS: A team can use up to 4 drivers during a season. Any driver will be allowed no more than 2 different stints during the season. Any PAY DRIVER must be confirmed as a Pay Driver before the season starts.

UPDATES SYSTEM

CAR IMPROVEMENTS;


Reliability; Every 50 reliability points - 5 Credits
Engine Power; 1 BHP - 10 credits

Drivers -TEAM OWNER MUST SPECIFY TO WHICH DRIVER WILL BE APPLIED-:

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
**** IMPORTANT: Drivers Consistency has been removed. From now on it will be a random ammount within a reasonable range and it will be updated every season.

Every driver will start with the same ammount of Performance Points, regardless of their past in the F1RWRS series:

14000 points of Performance either for Qualifying or Race (Being 17000 the max. value)
2000 points of Consistency (Being 300 the max. value, so you buy "negative" Consistency points in order to improve a driver consistency)

PAY DRIVERS RULING: Every Pay Driver pays the team 20 Credits per Weekend. Pay Drivers can´t be upgraded, and their performance points are random (within a range of 13000 and 14500), they will tend to be a little bit more inconsistent than Race Drivers as well. A Pay Driver must earn at least 10 championship points within a season before it can be unlocked and upgraded to a Race Driver (The team owner can chose to upgrade the Pay Driver or keep it as a Pay Driver).
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 06:51

Wizzie wrote:I can't help but feel that your calculations are vastly different to mine because when the TMLW and I calculated our budgets for 2014, MRT had close to 1400 credits. :|


You can send me your calculations if you want to and I will study where the difference comes from. Remember we agreed Horizon would only transfer half of their credits to MRT, and that Horizon aren´t entitled the 200 Cr. for TV Rights as they aren´t competing in 2014. The budget cap I introduced recently allows teams to only have 1000 Credits available.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby The Lukas » 10 Nov 2011, 06:56

Yu Hiang-Hao Dofasco driver to next season
Team Dofasco Lukoil Racing, announced that Yu Hiang-Hao, will be the driver of the team in season 2014, Chinese driver in the previous season, drove in a Flying Fish Motorsports team also had to ride this season but that caused the withdrawal of the teamChinese was without a job.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Wizzie » 10 Nov 2011, 06:59

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:I can't help but feel that your calculations are vastly different to mine because when the TMLW and I calculated our budgets for 2014, MRT had close to 1400 credits. :|


You can send me your calculations if you want to and I will study where the difference comes from. Remember we agreed Horizon would only transfer half of their credits to MRT, and that Horizon aren´t entitled the 200 Cr. for TV Rights as they aren´t competing in 2014. The budget cap I introduced recently allows teams to only have 1000 Credits available.


That explains 200 of the missing credits. My bad :oops:

I'd imagine the main difference between your calculations and ours would be what happened to the proceeds from the sale of Horizion's car. After selling the car (Engine for 150, chassis for 300) that would leave 450 credits left over from the sale. I'm currently under the impression that as a result MRT get half of that which means that we would hit the cap limit with another 125 left over.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Klon » 10 Nov 2011, 07:19

With so much money available to them, the new teams will completely rule pre-qualifying - hell, I'd predict if any of these teams happen to get their hands on a decent driver (which Shonan DMS might already have) they are within a good shot of making the points.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 10 Nov 2011, 07:25

Curious idea:

Could you put the current version of the season rules on the first page? It'd be much more convenient and it'll stop people from having to refer to the 4th page.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:28

2014 CHASSIS AND ENGINE LIST:

CHASSISES

Chassis Name // Reliability Points (the less the better) // SPEED INC (More than 5 will increase your Power, less will decrease it) // REGULARITY (It affects your drivers consistency) // MAX. POWER (This is the max. Power this chassis can run regardless of the engine) // PRICE // Current Owner


AGS JH21C // 14000 // 2 // 9 // 650 // 250
AGS JH24 // 11000 // 2 // 8 //670 // 275
AGS JH27 // 12000 // 2 // 8 // 690 // 275
AMODA S921 // 15000 // 1 // 10 // 650 // 150
BRABHAM BT55 // 8000 // 9 // 7 // 900 // 700 MRT
BRABHAM BT60B // 2000 // 3 // 9 // 750 // 350 Arrowtech
COLONI FC188C // 15000 // 2 // 9 // 600 // 200
COLONI C3B // 11000 // 1 // 10 // 550 // 175
COLONI C4 // 7000 // 1 // 10 // 640 // 200
DALLARA F190 // 8000 // 5 // 4 // 740 // 400 HRT
EBRUN ER 189 // 7000 // 1 // 10 // 650 // 200
EBRUN ER 190 // 7000 // 2 // 9 // 650 // 275
FOMET F1 // 9000 // 3 // 6 // 690 // 325 GRM
FOOTWORK FA12 // 7000 // 3 // 6 // 730 // 350 Sunshine Infiniti
FORTI FG01 // 11000 // 2 // 9 // 680 // 275
FORTI FG03 // 6000 // 3 // 9 // 720 // 325 Trueba
JORDAN 191 // 7000 // 7 // 8 // 770 // 900
LAMBO 291 // 2000 // 2 // 10 // 710 // 350 Prospec
LIFE F190 // 16000 // 1 // 10 // 500 // 100
LIGIER JS33 // 9000 // 4 // 7 // 750 // 400 Acuri
LOLA T93 // 11000 // 3 // 8 // 730 // 300 Dofasco
LOLA T97 // 15000 // 1 // 9 // 750 // 150 Shonan
LHOUSE CG911 // 7000 // 8 // 5 // 720 // 550 Kamaha
MINARDI M187 // 14000 // 5 // 7 // 760 // 425
MINARDI M197 // 3000 // 5 // 9 // 770 // 600 Jones
ONYX ORE-2 // 3000 // 3 // 8 // 690 // 375
OSELLA FA1G // 11000 // 3 // 9 // 750 // 300 DGNgineering
OSELLA FA1L // 10000 // 2 // 6 // 680 // 200 Tropico
OSELLA FA1M // 15000 // 3 // 7 // 710 // 300
PACIFIC PR01 // 12000 // 2 // 10 // 690 // 200
PACIFIC PR02 // 15000 // 3 // 9 // 680 // 250
RAM 03 // 7000 // 4 // 6 // 750 // 400 Gillet Ecurie
RIAL ARC-02 // 2000 // 3 // 8 // 690 // 300
SIMTEK S941 // 8000 // 3 // 9 // 730 // 350 Foxdale
SIMTEK S951 // 12000 // 5 // 7 // 710 // 450 American Racing
TYRRELL 021 // 9000 // 5 // 8 // 730 // 500 Mitie Av
TYRRELL 026 // 6000 // 6 // 8 // 750 // 650 Phoenix
ZAKSPEED 861 // 7000 // 5 // 8 // 790 // 550 Mecha
ZAKSPEED 891 // 9000 // 2 // 9 // 680 // 225

ENGINES

Engine Name // Power // Reliability // Max. Upgrade // Price // TEAM 1 // TEAM 2

FORD DFR V8 // 590 // 3000 // 680 // 350 PHOENIX // MITIE AV
FORD DFZ // 580 // 2000 // 670 // 350 DOFASCO // MECHA
FORD HB I // 615 // 1000 // 700 // 450 TRUEBA // SHONAN
FORD HB IV // 640 // 2000 // 720 // 525
FORD HBD VI // 680 // 4000 // 750 // 600 JONES // ARC
FORD ED V8 // 580 // 2000 // 670 // 350
LIFE W12 // 350 // 14000 // 500 // 100
MMODERNI615 // 720 // 9000 // 770 // 600 SUNSHINE // AVAILABLE
SUBARU 1235 // 450 // 5000 // 650 // 150
YAMAHA OX88 // 540 // 4000 // 620 // 250 TROPICO // AVAILABLE
PORSCHE V12 // 655 // 4000 // 690 // 500 HRT // GRM
ILMOR 2175A // 670 // 8000 // 730 // 500
JUDD GV10 // 680 // 4000 // 740 // 550 GILLET // AVAILABLE
ZAKSPEED 1500 // 800 // 8000 // 830 // 700 DAGNALL // MRT
YAMAHA OX10A // 700 // 5000 // 790 // 650 KAMAHA // AVAILABLE
LAMBORGHINI 3512 // 640 // 6000 // 690 // 400 PROSPEC // AVAILABLE
JUDD CV // 590 // 7000 // 700 // 300
HART 415T // 740 // 13000 // 800 // 625
RENAULT RS01 // 650 // 3000 // 770 // 550 ACURI // FOXDALE
PEUGEOT A7 // 690 // 6000 // 770 // 650 ARROWTECH
ISUZU P799 // 740 // ???? (Random!) // 840 // 790

*** NEW ADITIONS IN BLUE
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:29

JeremyMcClean wrote:Curious idea:

Could you put the current version of the season rules on the first page? It'd be much more convenient and it'll stop people from having to refer to the 4th page.


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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 07:29

Aerond wrote:2014 SEASON RULES (Small updates over 2013 rules)

* DRIVERS: A team can use up to 4 drivers during a season. Any driver will be allowed no more than 2 different stints during the season. Any PAY DRIVER must be confirmed as a Pay Driver before the season starts.

PAY DRIVERS RULING: Every Pay Driver pays the team 20 Credits per Weekend. Pay Drivers can´t be upgraded, and their performance points are random (within a range of 13000 and 14500), they will tend to be a little bit more inconsistent than Race Drivers as well. A Pay Driver must earn at least 10 championship points within a season before it can be unlocked and upgraded to a Race Driver (The team owner can chose to upgrade the Pay Driver or keep it as a Pay Driver).

Right. First things first. I assume therefore that Ben Fleet remains a pay driver...

And Foxdale will announce their final driver line-up with confirmation of their chassis/engine choice. I think the choice is between Douglas and Pippa Mann, Ben Fleet and Jack Christopherson, isn't it?
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 10 Nov 2011, 07:31

ArrowTech is willing to sell it's old chassis at 400 credits to any team. It is a Brabham BT60B.

I will be willing to haggle.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 07:34

And could you explain the range for the data? For example, for reliability, is 13000 or 3000 better? (I'm just weighing up Foxdale's options...)

And max. upgrade, is that the number of credits or amount of performance figures?
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:35

DGNgineering will wait before changing chassis not to gain any advantage by knowing the aditions first.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:35

dr-baker wrote:And could you explain the range for the data? For example, for reliability, is 13000 or 3000 better? (I'm just weighing up Foxdale's options...)


The less, the better. Let´s say cars tend to be quite unreliable from 8000 onwards (max is 32000).
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 10 Nov 2011, 07:39

Acuri will take the Renault RS01 Engine for 550 credits, leaving Acuri with 450, who spends it on a Ligier JS33. Leaving Acuri with 50 credits that are to be spent later.

No I am not selling the Brabham BT60B to Acuri just to be fair.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:41

Klon wrote:With so much money available to them, the new teams will completely rule pre-qualifying - hell, I'd predict if any of these teams happen to get their hands on a decent driver (which Shonan DMS might already have) they are within a good shot of making the points.


I don´t know, they have to buy a chassis and engine first :) I predict a way closer PreQ this season
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 07:44

Aerond wrote: I predict a way closer PreQ this season


Yeah, now that Foxdale are not there any longer again...

And Foxdale would like to annonce that they are retaining their Simtek chassis, but ditching their Hart engine for the Renault RS01.

As for drivers, Douglas Mann is being retained, with Jack Christopherson alongside him, if he is still interested. Otherwise Pippa Mann will start the season alongside her brother.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Klon » 10 Nov 2011, 07:44

And here we go:
I am selling both Life chassis and the engine, that move gives me 100 additional credits.
Both Darren Older Jr. and Miko Fäkkinen are pay-drivers - I will allow myself to already add their 40 credits for the first race to my budget
This results in Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport having a budget of 480 credits, which allows me to purchase the following:

OSELLA FA1L // 10000 // 2 // 6 // 680 // 200
YAMAHA OX88 // 540 // 4000 // 620 // 250

Note however that this will only be my combination if I am not allowed to make debts before the season begins, if my assumption regarding this happens to be false, I will take the following combination,

LIGIER JS33 // 9000 // 4 // 7 // 750 // 400
YAMAHA OX88 // 540 // 4000 // 620 // 250

That would put me at -170, which would be paid by the end of the first pay driver circle in combination with a Reject Of The Race.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 10 Nov 2011, 07:46

Oh, and pending if whether or not the Brabham BT60B sells or not, if we get it sold, ArrowTech will buy the Minardi M197. (Pending on the sale of the old chassis)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:48

Klon wrote:And here we go:
I am selling both Life chassis and the engine, that move gives me 100 additional credits.
Both Darren Older Jr. and Miko Fäkkinen are pay-drivers - I will allow myself to already add their 40 credits for the first race to my budget
This results in Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport having a budget of 480 credits, which allows me to purchase the following:

OSELLA FA1L // 10000 // 2 // 6 // 680 // 200
YAMAHA OX88 // 540 // 4000 // 620 // 250

Note however that this will only be my combination if I am not allowed to make debts before the season begins, if my assumption regarding this happens to be false, I will take the following combination,

LIGIER JS33 // 9000 // 4 // 7 // 750 // 400
YAMAHA OX88 // 540 // 4000 // 620 // 250

That would put me at -170, which would be paid by the end of the first pay driver circle in combination with a Reject Of The Race.


Tropico will have the Osella - Yamaha combination (Acuri has already taken the Ligier). Tropico will also receive a penalty of 40 credits for the first circle of races, therefore Tropico should have 80 Credits by the end of Race 4.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Klon » 10 Nov 2011, 07:52

Oh, silly little me.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 07:53

Klon wrote:
Aerond wrote:The less, the better. Let´s say cars tend to be quite unreliable from 8000 onwards (max is 32000).


Silly little you :D




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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 07:56

Glad I read those silly little comments just in time (naive little me!)!!! ;)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Klon » 10 Nov 2011, 08:00

Aerond wrote:
Klon wrote:With so much money available to them, the new teams will completely rule pre-qualifying - hell, I'd predict if any of these teams happen to get their hands on a decent driver (which Shonan DMS might already have) they are within a good shot of making the points.


I don´t know, they have to buy a chassis and engine first :) I predict a way closer PreQ this season


540 bhp with two pay drivers against 650 bhp with one pay driver and a decent one. My point is proven.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 08:02

By the way, I definitely want Foxdale to have the Renault in place of the Hart, but does Foxdale have the budget to swap the Simtek for the Jordan 191 too, or not? If not, then I won't be too bothered. (I just can't be bothered to do the maths!)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Wizzie » 10 Nov 2011, 08:03

MRT would like the Zakspeed engine instead of the Yahama engine (to be rebadged and redeveloped as the BMW P89)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 08:20

dr-baker wrote:By the way, I definitely want Foxdale to have the Renault in place of the Hart, but does Foxdale have the budget to swap the Simtek for the Jordan 191 too, or not? If not, then I won't be too bothered. (I just can't be bothered to do the maths!)


No, if you sell your chassis after the engine change you would be left with 805 credits. So, Foxdale now has 635 with the engine change only.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 08:23

Wizzie wrote:MRT would like the Zakspeed engine instead of the Yahama engine (to be rebadged and redeveloped as the BMW P89)


MRT is left with 325 credits.
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Wizzie » 10 Nov 2011, 08:37

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:MRT would like the Zakspeed engine instead of the Yahama engine (to be rebadged and redeveloped as the BMW P89)


MRT is left with 325 credits.


So do MRT get the extra 225 from the Horizon car sale (125 of which can not be used this year) or not?
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 08:44

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:MRT would like the Zakspeed engine instead of the Yahama engine (to be rebadged and redeveloped as the BMW P89)


MRT is left with 325 credits.


So do MRT get the extra 225 from the Horizon car sale (125 of which can not be used this year) or not?


You can go over 1000 Credits when selling a chassis or engine, but only to purchase another one. Imagine you´re left with 1700 after selling your engine, if you spend 500, you can still only use 1000, but the other 200 aren´t saved for the future. So now, according to my accounts, MRT has 325 (900 + 125 from the Yamaha engine sale - 700 for the purchase of the Zakspeed engine)

EDIT: Just found your detailed accounts; 440 credits at the end of 2013 season + 425 from chassis and engine sale / 2 = 430, which are added to MRT´s 180 credits at the end of 2013 season + 290 in prizes (Tv money + 90) = 900
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby JeremyMcClean » 10 Nov 2011, 08:47

I see that there are a couple of items that say "Reserved for Kahama." Can I make such a reservation for the Minardi M197? (I'm hoping someone will take my offer on buying my current chassis)
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby dr-baker » 10 Nov 2011, 08:49

Aerond wrote:
dr-baker wrote:By the way, I definitely want Foxdale to have the Renault in place of the Hart, but does Foxdale have the budget to swap the Simtek for the Jordan 191 too, or not? If not, then I won't be too bothered. (I just can't be bothered to do the maths!)


No, if you sell your chassis after the engine change you would be left with 805 credits. So, Foxdale now has 635 with the engine change only.

Cheers. Just need Jack Christopherson to confirm his Foxdale drive alongside Douglas Mann please!
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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards

Postby Aerond » 10 Nov 2011, 08:54

JeremyMcClean wrote:I see that there are a couple of items that say "Reserved for Kahama." Can I make such a reservation for the Minardi M197? (I'm hoping someone will take my offer on buying my current chassis)


No, these items are "Reserved for Kamaha", as a result of FAT demise. formula1rpg transfered the team rights to SuperAguri before the 2013 season ended, but to avoid Kamaha simply taking over FAT engines for free, I agreed with him that he would take half of the credits earnt of prizes by FAT (including FAT´s chassis and engine sale), but with a preferential option to buy them at the regular price. So it really is an special case.
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