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by **tommykl** » 27 Nov 2011, 01:18

Timo Glock is out of the 107% zone for FP3, and is beaten both by his teammate and the HRTs.

by **GwilymJJames** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:21

Pasta falls in 18th;

Both HRTs beat both Virgins; Everyone in 107%

by **Shizuka** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:24

The way D'Ambrosio talks feels like it's goodbye.

by **S951** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:25

fair play mighty lap by liuzzi

by **Klon** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:25

Jacques Villeneuve is interviewed by German television and he praises Michael Schumacher? My childhood has officially died.

by **Shadaza** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:29

BBC just had a "Top Gun" relationship like talk between Glock and D'Ambrosio.

"He's not as fast as he looks but i've had worse team mates"
"He's a great team mate and good fun."

They then walked together in to the distance.

I half expected them to say "You can be my wingman anytime"

by **Shizuka** » 27 Nov 2011, 02:44

LOOK. IT'S THAT SINGER GUY! :lol:

by **Minardi Man** » 27 Nov 2011, 03:03

Vettel pole. Dull dull dull dull, dull dull dull dull, dull boringly dull.

by **Klon** » 27 Nov 2011, 03:06

It's just amazing - 15 poles in a season, this is undoubtably history. Finally I have actually witnessed a record being made (all these "Youngest ever..." records do not count).

by **Paul Hayes** » 27 Nov 2011, 03:11

Stunning lap for Vettel. Decent effort for Rubens, too. Let's hope the rain does him a favour tomorrow.

by **mario** » 27 Nov 2011, 03:16

Minardi Man wrote:Vettel pole. Dull dull dull dull, dull dull dull dull, dull boringly dull.

And the worst part is that Vettel could have easily gone much faster (his last sector was about 0.2s off his best time, implying that he could have been the best part of 0.4s clear of Webber instead of just 0.2s) - no wonder both McLaren drivers believed that the best they can hope for tomorrow is 3rd place. Mind you, it is one thing having that sort of performance available on Saturday and another converting that into a race win tomorrow - it remains to be seen what the weather is going to be like tomorrow, because a rain shower at the right time could change things considerably.

On another note, what happened to Rosberg? His Q2 lap was pretty damned impressive - it would have been good enough for 5th place in Q3 - but come Q3 his times were the best part of six tenths slower. The BBC commentary team were wondering if he had taken it a little easy so he wouldn't blister his tyres ahead of tomorrow, but even so it's surprising that he lost that amount of time between the two sessions.

by **Klon** » 27 Nov 2011, 04:55

mario wrote:On another note, what happened to Rosberg? His Q2 lap was pretty damned impressive - it would have been good enough for 5th place in Q3 - but come Q3 his times were the best part of six tenths slower. The BBC commentary team were wondering if he had taken it a little easy so he wouldn't blister his tyres ahead of tomorrow, but even so it's surprising that he lost that amount of time between the two sessions.

To be honest, I'd be agreeing with Coulthard and Brundle here. The Q2 lap was unique and Rosberg had no guarantee that he would be as good again, so I'd imagine he took the safer option of losing one or two places but not having to start on cheese aged in a wheel.

by **F1000X** » 27 Nov 2011, 04:55

I'm going to miss the sound of the blown diffusers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGgvHflXgc

by **DOSBoot** » 27 Nov 2011, 04:56

Klon wrote:It's just amazing - 15 poles in a season, this is undoubtably history. Finally I have actually witnessed a record being made (all these "Youngest ever..." records do not count).

I have a different reaction over it.

by **tc3j3r** » 27 Nov 2011, 06:15

Klon wrote:It's just amazing - 15 poles in a season, this is undoubtably history. Finally I have actually witnessed a record being made (all these "Youngest ever..." records do not count).

The "Youngest ever" records are moe legitimate than this "record" because everyone had the same playing field, whereas this does not deserve the label "record" because Vettel needed 3 more races than Mansell so it's a meaningless and irrelevant comparison. Mansell got 88% of the poles in 1992. Vettel got 79% of the poles this year. Were you not watching F1 in 2006 when Schumacher broke the record for the most career poles?

by **mario** » 27 Nov 2011, 07:01

Klon wrote:
mario wrote:On another note, what happened to Rosberg? His Q2 lap was pretty damned impressive - it would have been good enough for 5th place in Q3 - but come Q3 his times were the best part of six tenths slower. The BBC commentary team were wondering if he had taken it a little easy so he wouldn't blister his tyres ahead of tomorrow, but even so it's surprising that he lost that amount of time between the two sessions.

To be honest, I'd be agreeing with Coulthard and Brundle here. The Q2 lap was unique and Rosberg had no guarantee that he would be as good again, so I'd imagine he took the safer option of losing one or two places but not having to start on cheese aged in a wheel.

If that was the case, then it might not be a bad idea - Mercedes have often been the hardest on their rear tyres this season, and it seems that one or two drivers might have been suffering from rear graining, including Webber. On the other hand, by easing off Rosberg did take a fair bit of pressure off of Alonso, given that he thought that his "classic starting place", as he joked post qualifying, was under threat from Rosberg.

On another note, according to Autosport the most interesting rumour in the paddock at the moment regards the future of what is soon to become Team Caterham - Gascoyne appears to have lured McLaren's chief aerodynamicist, John Iley (a former co-worker of Gascoyne's) across, with Iley currently taking the mandatory "gardening leave" in place in most contracts (it's thought that he'll be starting work for Gascoyne in mid 2012 - too late to have much of an impact on their 2012 car, but in time to head up development of their 2013 car). http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96483

by **Peter** » 27 Nov 2011, 18:08

I think that many of the drivers had wet setups for tomorrow. Vettel not being one of them. His rivals were far too off of him than normal today. It's a lot more than Vettel just simply being that good.

by **mario** » 27 Nov 2011, 19:17

Peter wrote:I think that many of the drivers had wet setups for tomorrow. Vettel not being one of them. His rivals were far too off of him than normal today. It's a lot more than Vettel just simply being that good.

Maybe, but these days the difference in set up between wet and dry conditions has shrunk - since the cars are already producing a significant amount of downforce they don't really need to adjust the wings all that much. There might be a few changes to the tyre camber and gearing (McLaren have indicated that they geared their cars with a wet race in mind), and perhaps a few small tweaks to the roll bars (like Mercedes last year in Korea, where they adjusted the front roll bars during the red flag period), but overall the difference between the two set ups will be smaller than it used to be.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's just down to Vettel being that good, but that the RB7 is leaving everybody else for dead in the middle sector (Vettel and Webber are significantly faster through the middle sector than the next fastest drivers), and is geared for acceleration (Vettel is the third slowest driver in a straight line and he was on the rev limiter for most of the straights in qualifying).

by **Collieafc** » 27 Nov 2011, 19:31

Or maybe, everybody else has given up on this season?

by **Ferrim** » 27 Nov 2011, 19:40

tc3j3r wrote:
Klon wrote:It's just amazing - 15 poles in a season, this is undoubtably history. Finally I have actually witnessed a record being made (all these "Youngest ever..." records do not count).

The "Youngest ever" records are moe legitimate than this "record" because everyone had the same playing field, whereas this does not deserve the label "record" because Vettel needed 3 more races than Mansell so it's a meaningless and irrelevant comparison. Mansell got 88% of the poles in 1992. Vettel got 79% of the poles this year. Were you not watching F1 in 2006 when Schumacher broke the record for the most career poles?

There's a bit of an irony when some people talk about Schumacher's pole positions record and then say (not in your case, certainly) "well Senna took way less races, so the true record belongs to him", or something along these lines, because it happens that Clark's percentage is better than Senna's. :lol:

Kudos to Vettel himself for saying that Mansell took several less races to set his record. I'm starting to like the guy (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!)

BTW I have the feeling that today's race will bring some surprises. Given my recent awful record at making predictions, with the top one being "watch out for Rosberg today" a minute before the start of the Italian GP, I guess we'll witness a boredom of Valencian proportions. :roll:

by **AdrianSutil** » 27 Nov 2011, 19:44

Praying for rain. Or a pile-up at the start. Anyway, I'm expecting Kovalainen to harass Williams all race, 4 tenths behind in qualifying is nothing when you watch how strong Lotus/Caterham are in the race.

by **S951** » 27 Nov 2011, 21:52

would like wet race a schumacher win Kova or Trulli to score a point and rubens to get a podium :shock:

by **AdrianSutil** » 28 Nov 2011, 01:20

Nice interview between Barrichello and EJ. He still has the motivation, I hope he gets a drive for next year.

by **Dj_bereta** » 28 Nov 2011, 01:33

I hope for Barrichello in 2012!

Dark clouds around Interlagos.

Edit*: I live in a neighbor city of São Paulo, around 21KM of circuit. Started a light rain here.

by **Shizuka** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:06

Vettel leads. Yawn.

by **mediocre** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:09

Geez, where's the rain?

by **AdrianSutil** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:14

DRS fail.

by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:15

(Allegedly) 30 Minutes to rain? Fail.

by **S951** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:15

oh schumacher!!

by **QuickYoda41** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:16

The first time Bruno did something nice in Formula One. :twisted:

by **GwilymJJames** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:16

Schumacher Fail.

by **eagleash** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:16

S951 wrote:oh schumacher!!

Quite!!

Edit: Having said that the head on view just shown prompted DC to say 6 & 2 3s & MB to agree. Now they are saying neither driver did anything wrong.
Over to the Stewards then.

by **FMecha** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:17

Schumi ROTR.
Senna IIDOTR.

What? :lol:

by **Minardi Man** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:20

Rebault being erm, different once again with their strategy?

by **S951** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:21

come on gearbox explosion in the fingers car

by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:22

S951 wrote:come on gearbox explosion in the fingers car

+1

by **GwilymJJames** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:27

Senna DTP; bet the fans will love that one.

by **eagleash** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:28

Penalty for Senna

by **GwilymJJames** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:29

Massa leads the race!

by **GwilymJJames** » 28 Nov 2011, 02:30

Massa no longer leads the race.

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