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Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 07 Feb 2012, 08:52

I have had an idea. It comes thanks to a new nifty piece of equipment I've picked up - an Olympus DM-650, a professional spec. dictaphone/voice recorder with embedded auto podcasting function.

The name?
F1 Rejects EXTRA. (podcast)

I have a problem though. I'm not funny. I'm not charismatic. I'm not entertaining. I have NONE of the qualities Enoch & Jamie have. I have the equipment to do this, but not the talent. Which is where you can come in.

Some of you may have shades of Enomie/Janoch (or one of those things where you merge the words of a duo together, it's popular nowadays apparently) and can write something funny. Community podcasts were, in theory, not a bad idea, it's just I was terrible at content creation, and we had some erm...problems with the recording solution we used. It was a mess, frankly.

There are so few podcasts I figured it was about time to fill the void and stop F1 deprivation setting in between longer gaps in races, especially for us Brits who refuse to give money to the Devil Down Under.

What does everyone think? Am I wasting my time with this idea? Are all of you a bunch of boring old farts with nothing entertaining or remotely funny to say? Does this thing have legs? I want legs on pies? Has my train of thought been interrupted by the Mock the Week reference I just remembered? Will I ever get back to my original point? Will I ever stop asking stupid half hearted questions in a long list for dramatic effect? Why is there a drunk bloke taking a piss in my front garden? Where did I leave my shovel?
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 04:42

Well, it seems no-one is interested, so I will just consign this idea to the scrapheap. Mods can close the thread. :(
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby DanielPT » 09 Feb 2012, 05:18

It is not that no one is interested. I don't believe that. I would be if not completely devoid of any relevant or irrelevant, for that matter, talent. Let's say I could criticise (good or bad) the texts. It is just that if you want to really go for it, you should be more proactive. People only move if they are impelled to it. So invite them to participate, send them some texts, ask for voice samples and attempted F1 analysis or anything else related to chosen themes (you can do this personally, i.e, by mail). Gather interested parties in Skype, for instance, and talk with them, lead the conversation to interesting themes and let them speak. Record something and then showcase it to see where you are and how to improve. Proactive is the key here, man! Now, go get them! (I would be very interested to listen, of course!)
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 06:44

DanielPT wrote:It is not that no one is interested. I don't believe that. I would be if not completely devoid of any relevant or irrelevant, for that matter, talent. Let's say I could criticise (good or bad) the texts. It is just that if you want to really go for it, you should be more proactive. People only move if they are impelled to it. So invite them to participate, send them some texts, ask for voice samples and attempted F1 analysis or anything else related to chosen themes (you can do this personally, i.e, by mail). Gather interested parties in Skype, for instance, and talk with them, lead the conversation to interesting themes and let them speak. Record something and then showcase it to see where you are and how to improve. Proactive is the key here, man! Now, go get them! (I would be very interested to listen, of course!)

For the love of god, not Skype again. We used it extensively when recording the one-off "community podcast" and it was, quite frankly, a DISASTER. :lol:

But you're right, it should be a community effort in more ways, and therefore I think if anyone has interest in the idea there will be a better candidate than myself to progress the idea further.
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby Wizzie » 09 Feb 2012, 06:56

I'm interested in doing this as I can make up the most ridiculous stuff on the spot although after a while, I do end up resorting to a few standard catchphrases as everyone saw in the FedEx 100 :lol:
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby FullMetalJack » 09 Feb 2012, 07:33

kostas22 wrote:I have a problem though. I'm not funny. I'm not charismatic. I'm not entertaining. I have NONE of the qualities Enoch & Jamie have. I have the equipment to do this, but not the talent.


I am basically the bold parts.
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Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 07:42

Wizzie wrote:I'm interested in doing this as I can make up the most ridiculous stuff on the spot although after a while, I do end up resorting to a few standard catchphrases as everyone saw in the FedEx 100 :lol:

We'll employ you as the "For Sure" guy, you can pretend to be Stefano Domenicali, use a dodgy attempt at an Italian accent and give us random PR drivel answers straight from the publicocrapometer.

You know what? To hell with it. Lets bring back the community podcast. My original partner in crime, ADx_Wales, has indicated he has no intention to return to the team, so I'll be looking for new partners in crime :D

My suggestion to incorporate members from all corner of the globe is Wizze + TMLW would have a segment to themselves. And then me and another Brit (how hilarious would it if myself & AndreaModa reprised our fictional alter egos and had a swearing contest on air? :lol:) would do some other bits.

This one is meant to compliment the regular podcasts with higher frequency, seeing as new podcasts are generally few and far between - and I expect there to be even less now that Enoch has the 2037 Superteam to deal with!
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Re: Scriptwriters, your time is now

Postby East Londoner » 09 Feb 2012, 07:43

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kostas22 wrote:I have a problem though. I'm not funny. I'm not charismatic. I'm not entertaining. I have NONE of the qualities Enoch & Jamie have. I have the equipment to do this, but not the talent.


I am basically the bold parts.

Seconded. I'm basically useless at speaking for long periods of time. I could make Legard sound like Ben Edwards.
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Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 07:47

In terms of presenting technique I'm on a whole other level compared to two years ago when I last did a podcast. But, that still doesn't mean I've gained a sense of humour or personality since. :lol:

Also, just came up with an idea for a featurette - GMIRWRSP - Great Moments in Reject World Race Series Punditry. A competition where members of the forum are pitted against one another to come up with the most hilariously stupid/rejectful/nonsensical commentary to an event in one of the Reject World Race Series events past or present. The winner gets...probably nothing, but who knows, someone might think of something. :mrgreen:
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby FullMetalJack » 09 Feb 2012, 07:59

kostas22 wrote:Also, just came up with an idea for a featurette - GMIRWRSP - Great Moments in Reject World Race Series Punditry. A competition where members of the forum are pitted against one another to come up with the most hilariously stupid/rejectful/nonsensical commentary to an event in one of the Reject World Race Series events past or present. The winner gets...probably nothing, but who knows, someone might think of something. :mrgreen:


I'd be slightly bored without Christopherson to commentate on. There is nobody in that series with the epicness and pure excitement of Nick Heidfeld.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby BlindCaveSalamander » 09 Feb 2012, 08:30

Eh, sure, why not, count me in too. I usually don't speak much though, so maybe I could just record one or two opinion pieces now and again.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 09:55

If people want to network on this, sign up to Skype if you haven't already. It will be essential. Right now I'm focused on producing my own radio show but I should have the pre-production stuff finished by next Tuesday, after which I should be able to start orchestrating something coherent.

And just finished doing some 'tests'. Welcome to hell :lol:
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby eurobrun » 09 Feb 2012, 16:29

Sorry but my voice is probably the most annoying thing in the whole world so I will not be in this.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dinizintheoven » 09 Feb 2012, 19:45

I am, as probably none of you will know, just as much of a seasoned podcaster as Jamie and Enoch are - but it's not Formula 1 related in any way, though I did once give this site a shoutout when it seemed appropriate. This is my latest effort - my usefulness in this community effort is up in the air, but if anyone wants me to do it, I'll consider it.

As for above, if you keep watching thorcast.co.uk, there'll be another one on the 15th of February...
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 20:04

dinizintheoven wrote:I am, as probably none of you will know, just as much of a seasoned podcaster as Jamie and Enoch are - but it's not Formula 1 related in any way, though I did once give this site a shoutout when it seemed appropriate. This is my latest effort - my usefulness in this community effort is up in the air, but if anyone wants me to do it, I'll consider it.

As for above, if you keep watching thorcast.co.uk, there'll be another one on the 15th of February...

Huzzah! I had totally forgotten about PodOmatic. Does it have any data limits? I haven't used it for years...Dropbox only has 2 gig of space so will become useless eventually.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby DanielPT » 09 Feb 2012, 21:01

Glad to see this one moving forward! ;)
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 09 Feb 2012, 22:02

Now to assemble interested members. Everybody who wants to participate in this in ANY form, whether it be presenting, producing, scripting, editing, brainstorming ideas, absolutely anything at all - add kostas22r to your Skype contacts list. In the absence of one massive coffee clatch in a planet-sized Starbucks all production meetings will take place on Skype (as it also has the functionality of leaving messages which can be read later). On Sunday I will create an 'F1 Rejects' conference group on Skype and add everyone who has added me to their contacts to it.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Kuwashima » 09 Feb 2012, 22:08

Ha - go for your lives. I might add... Enoch and I intend to be back in front of the microphone as soon as Enoch's family life allows it :) Hopefully that might not be as long as you might think. Although it might be longer!
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dr-baker » 10 Feb 2012, 00:10

Kuwashima wrote:Ha - go for your lives. I might add... Enoch and I intend to be back in front of the microphone as soon as Enoch's family life allows it :) Hopefully that might not be as long as you might think. Although it might be longer!

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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby tommykl » 10 Feb 2012, 00:34

I just can't speak for long periods of time at all, although I have been told I can write well, so if I write something down and say it in front of the microphone, then I guess I could contribute something. Otherwise, I'm just Kimi Räikkönen with a different accent.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dinizintheoven » 10 Feb 2012, 12:07

kostas22 wrote:Huzzah! I had totally forgotten about PodOmatic. Does it have any data limits? I haven't used it for years...Dropbox only has 2 gig of space so will become useless eventually.

There's not masses there - 500MB of space and 15 GB of bandwidth per month. It does me OK - but I'm now down to having only my most recent two shows on there at any one time, rather than three. Still, thorcast.co.uk has an archive of all the others.

I get the idea that if the F1 Rejects podcast was uploaded to Podomatic at the low bitrate it is hosted as even to this day, it would be converted on the site to 128 kb/s and 44 kHz, and would be downloadable and streamable in only that format, but with the original file taking up much less space. Not that the downloadable version would have its sound quality restored, obviously. If, on the other hand, the converted version would end up taking excess space on the server, then there's likely to be a better site out there for that purpose - so I'm not suggesting for a minute that the F1 Rejects podcast should be hosted there. I think there's plenty of space here yet... isn't there?
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 11 Feb 2012, 22:53

dinizintheoven wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Huzzah! I had totally forgotten about PodOmatic. Does it have any data limits? I haven't used it for years...Dropbox only has 2 gig of space so will become useless eventually.

There's not masses there - 500MB of space and 15 GB of bandwidth per month. It does me OK - but I'm now down to having only my most recent two shows on there at any one time, rather than three. Still, thorcast.co.uk has an archive of all the others.

I get the idea that if the F1 Rejects podcast was uploaded to Podomatic at the low bitrate it is hosted as even to this day, it would be converted on the site to 128 kb/s and 44 kHz, and would be downloadable and streamable in only that format, but with the original file taking up much less space. Not that the downloadable version would have its sound quality restored, obviously. If, on the other hand, the converted version would end up taking excess space on the server, then there's likely to be a better site out there for that purpose - so I'm not suggesting for a minute that the F1 Rejects podcast should be hosted there. I think there's plenty of space here yet... isn't there?

I was rather hoping I wouldn't have to rely on Jamie or Enoch uploading podcasts to the net for me...

And guys, what the hell? After two days I've had ONE person add me to Skype. What is wrong with you all? Are you all like Alonso?
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dinizintheoven » 12 Feb 2012, 00:22

kostas22 wrote:I was rather hoping I wouldn't have to rely on Jamie or Enoch uploading podcasts to the net for me...

Well, you shouldn't have to... but, if you're looking for a free option, they may be some better than Podomatic. That said, if your podcasts are going to be at as low a bitrate as the official F1 Rejects podcasts are, there should be space for quite a few before it runs out.

My archive is hosted on 4shared, where I get 10 GB of space for nowt. Only thing is, I have to make sure I've logged in at least once every 28 days, or the whole lot vanishes.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 12 Feb 2012, 00:36

dinizintheoven wrote:
kostas22 wrote:I was rather hoping I wouldn't have to rely on Jamie or Enoch uploading podcasts to the net for me...

Well, you shouldn't have to... but, if you're looking for a free option, they may be some better than Podomatic. That said, if your podcasts are going to be at as low a bitrate as the official F1 Rejects podcasts are, there should be space for quite a few before it runs out.

My archive is hosted on 4shared, where I get 10 GB of space for nowt. Only thing is, I have to make sure I've logged in at least once every 28 days, or the whole lot vanishes.

I was hoping to do them in 128kbps MP3. Uncompressed WAV is an outdated and inefficient file format that I really wish they would do away with for low file size audio! So 10GB would do nicely...it's a shame Oosah closed because they had 1TB of free space :P
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dinizintheoven » 12 Feb 2012, 07:23

kostas22 wrote:I was hoping to do them in 128kbps MP3.

With a free Podomatic account, that's the format you'll get out (MP3, 128 kb/s, 44 kHz, joint stereo), irrespective of how it's uploaded in the first place. I've checked the F1 Rejects podcasts; the first, in August 2005, was 32 kb/s, 22 kHz, mono - and to this day, it still is, the filesize is only larger because it's expanded from 17 minutes to over an hour. However, upload to Podomatic in this "AM radio quality" - which is all you need if it's just you talking, which to a first approximation the F1 Rejects podcast definitely is (well, it's not you, but you see what I mean) - and it'll be converted to 128 kb/s, 44 kHz on the server. Obviously, though, there's no way of getting the sound quality back.

I suppose it's up to you where you want to host it - dumping the podcast on a site such as 4shared means there will be no restrictions on what format you use.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dinizintheoven » 12 Feb 2012, 07:27

...I'm listening to that first podcast again, and it isn't half strange hearing HWNSNBM not referred to as HWNSNBM...
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 12 Feb 2012, 08:15

Well so far it seems there is almost no interest in this idea :(

Perhaps time to call it quits this time...
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby This » 12 Feb 2012, 09:00

well in my opinion, i can't contribute much.

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In everyone's opinion, they can't contribute much. That was what everyone said when we made the first ever community podcast. But we still went ahead and did it anyway!!
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Wizzie » 12 Feb 2012, 11:31

kostas22 wrote:In everyone's opinion, they can't contribute much. That was what everyone said when we made the first ever community podcast. But we still went ahead and did it anyway!!


I tried but I ended up being cut from the end product :cry:

Seriously though we should make an F1RWRS half-time podcast and see how long before you, me and the elephant in the room that is TMLW start going for each other's jugulars. And possibly some bragging about how the series is in a better state than the WRC :lol:
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 12 Feb 2012, 11:55

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kostas22 wrote:In everyone's opinion, they can't contribute much. That was what everyone said when we made the first ever community podcast. But we still went ahead and did it anyway!!


I tried but I ended up being cut from the end product :cry:

Seriously though we should make an F1RWRS half-time podcast and see how long before you, me and the elephant in the room that is TMLW start going for each other's jugulars. And possibly some bragging about how the series is in a better state than the WRC :lol:

Blame Tim and Ade for that, they talked forever :P

Are you suggesting some sort of Alitalia vs F1RWRS Commission showdown live on air? I don't think that will be broadcastable considering the level of swearing involved :?
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Wizzie » 12 Feb 2012, 12:01

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Wizzie wrote:Seriously though we should make an F1RWRS half-time podcast and see how long before you, me and the elephant in the room that is TMLW start going for each other's jugulars. And possibly some bragging about how the series is in a better state than the WRC :lol:


Are you suggesting some sort of Alitalia vs F1RWRS Commission showdown live on air? I don't think that will be broadcastable considering the level of swearing involved :?


Angry Glaswegian verses Angry Short Bloke from the colonies... probably wouldn't be. :lol:

And between you and me, MRT are actually starting to get pretty pissed off with BMW's incapability of making an engine that is both fast and reliable after the disasters that were the P88 and P89.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 13 Feb 2012, 05:36

I have a couple of people involved now. We've come up with some ideas and are going to press ahead and script some stuff very soon. And, we've got some previews lined up. OK, I have some previews lined up, and I advise you to ignore them completely because they are simply awful, but I suppose it will give you a good idea of just how bad the podcast will probably end up being. :)

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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby This » 13 Feb 2012, 07:10

facepalm

i'm looking forward to it :D
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 13 Feb 2012, 07:44

This wrote:facepalm

Indeed. :?
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby dr-baker » 13 Feb 2012, 08:20

Wizzie wrote:Seriously though we should make an F1RWRS half-time podcast and see how long before you, me and the elephant in the room that is TMLW start going for each other's jugulars. And possibly some bragging about how the series is in a better state than the WRC :lol:

To be honest, the only series not in a better state than the WRC are A1GP and A10GP/WS...
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby ADx_Wales » 13 Feb 2012, 08:26

Holy Cra...bsticks you got to the minute mark without stopping talking, Aly, you could EASILY do this podcast all by yourself. :D
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 13 Feb 2012, 08:29

ADx_Wales wrote:Holy Cra...bsticks you got to the minute mark without stopping talking, Aly, you could EASILY do this podcast all by yourself. :D

The problem is, after listening to that back AFTER posting, I realised I used a couple of expletives in there without beeping them out :shock: :?
Sorry everyone, national genetics and all that :lol:

And me doing a podcast on my own? That would just be boring. Plus it needs more cultural diversity anyway :lol:
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby ADx_Wales » 13 Feb 2012, 08:33

kostas22 wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Holy Cra...bsticks you got to the minute mark without stopping talking, Aly, you could EASILY do this podcast all by yourself. :D

The problem is, after listening to that back AFTER posting, I realised I used a couple of expletives in there without beeping them out :shock: :?
Sorry everyone, national genitals and all that :lol:

And me doing a podcast on my own? That would just be boring. Plus it needs more cultural diversity anyway :lol:


I think the overplanning of the first community podcast was our downfall because we thought THATS what we had to do. Seriously people, there was a script and everything.
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Re: Return of the community podcast?

Postby Stramala » 13 Feb 2012, 09:20

ADx_Wales wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Holy Cra...bsticks you got to the minute mark without stopping talking, Aly, you could EASILY do this podcast all by yourself. :D

The problem is, after listening to that back AFTER posting, I realised I used a couple of expletives in there without beeping them out :shock: :?
Sorry everyone, national genetics (genitals) and all that :lol:

And me doing a podcast on my own? That would just be boring. Plus it needs more cultural diversity anyway :lol:


I think the overplanning of the first community podcast was our downfall because we thought THATS what we had to do. Seriously people, there was a script and everything.

STOP MESSING WITH MY QUOTES :evil:

And while I agree with your point, there does still need to more than one person involved. Humour on the normal podcasts derives much from Jamie and Enoch feeding off of each others comments.
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