BlindCaveSalamander wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Who the bathplug do Red Bull think they are?! Just because you've won titles doesn't mean you can talk trash about the backmarkers!!
Been watching the post-race interviews on BBC red button, and poor old Karthikeyen turned around to DC and Jake Humphrey saying "What can I do? I try to get out of the way but when other drivers try to force you off the road it's not acceptable. I'm trying to drive my own race. I don't want to get in the way of the faster guys but I'm here doing my own job."
Fair play to him, an honest and very polite answer.
But then Christian Horner comes along a few minutes later and slags him off for taking Vettel out of contention. He says, "It looks like he pulled back onto the racing line too early and caused an avoidable accident. He's running around 7 seconds off the pace so he should be getting out of the way early enough. He hasn't got a chance of points but we have. He has to understand that."
now I'm sorry Mr Horner, but you have NO RIGHT to say that about a team struggling to qualify, let alone be competitive. HRT are trying their best to race against anyone ahead of them, so you can't expect them to just drive off the road so your precious double Champion can SCRAPE a 4th!!
My estimation of Vettel and especially Horner has dropped massively. Those comments, which hopefully other people have heard, is downright disrespectful. Just proves ego is high within Red Bull
The thing is Karthikeyan didn't try to get out of the way. He made a mistake and Vettel breezed past. I support HRT as much as the next poster, but he really could've and should've backed out. Don't forget that Grosjean had similar contact in Melbourne which put him out, and I recall him getting some stick for that.
To be fair to Karthikeyan, I guess that he was simply caught out slightly by the difference in closing speed between himself and Vettel, particularly since Karthikeyan had already slowed to let one driver through and was probably not expecting Vettel to catch him where he did. And strictly speaking, the rules do not oblige a backmarker to leave the racing line - it may be considered polite, but all a backmarker is obliged to do is to let a driver through. Anyway, for what my opinion is worth, it was more a case of a slight misjudgement of their respective lines through one of the fastest corners on the track when Karthikeyan would have had relatively little time to see and react to Vettel.
jackanderton wrote:Alonso would never have risked a collision with Perez either as he himself might not be in that position often this season. Perez was 1.5s faster per lap than Alonso, was 6 tenths behind him after reducing a 7 second deficit to Alonso in 6 laps. Without the mistake Perez would've been past and Sauber would be tasting real glory instead of the glory of the faster loser.
I guess that Sauber really were torn over what to do - on the one hand, a victory for Sauber and the additional points for the victory would have given them 3rd in the WCC ahead of Ferrari and put Perez 2nd in the WDC just a point behind Hamilton. That would have given them and Perez a major blaze of publicity and perhaps helped lure a sponsor or two in (there might be a sponsor wanting to become associated with an up and coming driver), which would be great for the long term finances of the team.
On the other hand, though, imagine if Perez had tried to pass Alonso and made a mistake - entirely possible given the track was still damp and quite slippery off the racing line. Perez was on course to score in that one race more points than he'd scored throughout the whole of last year, and about 40% of what Sauber's total points haul last year was - given how tight the battle between the teams is in the midfield, that could be crucial come the end of the season. A single mistake from Perez could have cost the team very dearly come the end of the season - imagine if they lost out to, say, Force India by a couple of points as a result of that.
Added to that, I have seen one journalist point out something else about that radio message from the pit wall to Perez. The point is, that radio message would have been a delayed transmission and was probably sent to Perez at least one lap before we heard that message - yet Perez was still pushing as hard as ever to catch Alonso, suggesting that he might well have been ignoring the team and pressing on regardless. In the circumstances, whilst there might have been a strong incentive for the team to want Perez to push on, I can understand why exactly they told Perez to take it easy and not to throw away his position, because they cannot afford to throw away what was their best result and first podium in nine years as an independent team.