The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship

[eurobrun]

The track is fun, apart from one section. The jump through the ring at the end. The double jump sequence to get too it is hard too judge right at full trot, arghhhh.
There is another jump I thought was impossible at first but actually the way to beat it is rather ingenious and once I got the knack of it easy as pie.

Is this the same jump that I got caught up on virtually every single time at around the 30 second mark?

Strangely enough, I didn't have that many problems with the ring. Mostly because I only got up to that part about 4 times but, whilst nowhere near perfect, wasn't that difficult.

I think I found a rather ingenious way to get round the jump at 30 seconds. (Read:Cheating)

[Wizzie]

The track is fun, apart from one section. The jump through the ring at the end. The double jump sequence to get too it is hard too judge right at full trot, arghhhh.
There is another jump I thought was impossible at first but actually the way to beat it is rather ingenious and once I got the knack of it easy as pie.

Is this the same jump that I got caught up on virtually every single time at around the 30 second mark?

Strangely enough, I didn't have that many problems with the ring. Mostly because I only got up to that part about 4 times but, whilst nowhere near perfect, wasn't that difficult.

I think I found a rather ingenious way to get round the jump at 30 seconds.(Read:Cheating)

I think my way of (eventually) doing it properly was better

[Shadaza]

The track is fun, apart from one section. The jump through the ring at the end. The double jump sequence to get too it is hard too judge right at full trot, arghhhh.
There is another jump I thought was impossible at first but actually the way to beat it is rather ingenious and once I got the knack of it easy as pie.

Is this the same jump that I got caught up on virtually every single time at around the 30 second mark?

Strangely enough, I didn't have that many problems with the ring. Mostly because I only got up to that part about 4 times but, whilst nowhere near perfect, wasn't that difficult.

yup, THAT jump. It is all about how you handle the hairpin before it. I wouldn't call it anything like cheating though so I'm interested to see how you did it eurobrun.

[Wizzie]

The track is fun, apart from one section. The jump through the ring at the end. The double jump sequence to get too it is hard too judge right at full trot, arghhhh.
There is another jump I thought was impossible at first but actually the way to beat it is rather ingenious and once I got the knack of it easy as pie.

Is this the same jump that I got caught up on virtually every single time at around the 30 second mark?

Strangely enough, I didn't have that many problems with the ring. Mostly because I only got up to that part about 4 times but, whilst nowhere near perfect, wasn't that difficult.

yup, THAT jump. It is all about how you handle the hairpin before it. I wouldn't call it anything like cheating though so I'm interested to see how you did it eurobrun.

Yeah, I found that if you treated the hairpin like turn 4 at Symmonds Plains, it made it easier. However, I found it best if I picked a side before the jump as well for some strange reason.

[the Masked Lapwing]

Is this the same jump that I got caught up on virtually every single time at around the 30 second mark?

Strangely enough, I didn't have that many problems with the ring. Mostly because I only got up to that part about 4 times but, whilst nowhere near perfect, wasn't that difficult.

yup, THAT jump. It is all about how you handle the hairpin before it. I wouldn't call it anything like cheating though so I'm interested to see how you did it eurobrun.

Yeah, I found that if you treated the hairpin like turn 4 at Symmonds Plains, it made it easier. However, I found it best if I picked a side before the jump as well for some strange reason.

I went high around the hairpin and then straight down the middle of the jump. Problem is, I always manage to bugger up at the very next corner

[Shadaza]

I found an alternate way around the track!

Though it is probably slightly slower

[Stramala]

I found an alternate way around the track!

Though it is probably slightly slower

Well this is interesting. I hadn't planned for that. Mind sending me a replay for that as well as your fastest time?

@FMecha, yes, it's Vista32 compatible. Try installing again - http://trackmaniaforever.com/nations/

TMRRC launches Junior category

The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship has announced it will run a competition for rookie drivers called the Junior Rejects Rally Championship. The move comes amid fears that rookie drivers may struggled compared to their more experienced counterparts.

"I think it was a logical move for the sport," said TMRRC Commissioner Alasdair Lindsay. "Look at Krzysztof Holowczyc for example. He has been European Rally Champion in the past and won the Polish championship three times. He is going to be hard to beat, especially for the rookies with no experience."

The JRRC will run at all 10 rounds of the TMRRC championship, and use a 10-6-4-3-2-1 points system, and unlike the main championship, there will be no power stage bonuses.

Anyone that has already signed up who hasn't played the game before this contest, please tell me below. And any new entrants, please mark your entry with [JRRC] if you are a newbie.

[Shadaza]

I found an alternate way around the track!

Though it is probably slightly slower

Well this is interesting. I hadn't planned for that. Mind sending me a replay for that as well as your fastest time?

Ok, so setting a good lap time to send out of the alternative layout is tricky, plus I am pretty sure it is slower. But if anyone wants to prove me wrong, on the 2nd jump (about 15 seconds in to the lap) instead of going straight forward angle yourself to the left and you find yourself on the "cross over" section of the track simply go clockwise round this part and you will go back to the scene of the 2nd jump, simply jump to your right this time and you are back going the right direction on the circuit. Getting back across can be tricky though.

For a moment I thought I had found a big exploit because I found myself skipping to the "booster jump" section but to get there involved missing a check point

[Pointrox]

So far the only tricky moment is the hairpin followed by a jump.
My exit speed is too low and I always end up hitting the edge of the bank and having to climb up, that takes 2-3 seconds

I even pulled out my steering wheel to make my driving much smoother, and so far I've managed to improve my time by well over 8 seconds

[Shadaza]

So far the only tricky moment is the hairpin followed by a jump. My exit speed is too low and I always end up hitting the edge of the bank and having to climb up, that takes 2-3 second
I even pulled out my steering wheel to make my driving much smoother, and so far I've managed to improve my time by well over 8 seconds

Track Mania with a steering wheel? that sounds like my idea of a nightmare.

[Stramala]

So far the only tricky moment is the hairpin followed by a jump. My exit speed is too low and I always end up hitting the edge of the bank and having to climb up, that takes 2-3 second
I even pulled out my steering wheel to make my driving much smoother, and so far I've managed to improve my time by well over 8 seconds

Track Mania with a steering wheel? that sounds like my idea of a nightmare.

I tried it once. Went 5 seconds slower on every map and just gave up

[Pointrox]

Track Mania with a steering wheel? that sounds like my idea of a nightmare.

Trust me - on some trickier corners it's so much easier to have the steering wheel.
You can go for a much smoother line and more carefully increase or decrease the throttle if needed.
But I see your and kostas' point - most of the time it's a real pain in the arse.

[AndreaModa]

Brad Jacobs will be running in the Junior category please!

Tried the track about 4 or 5 times, managed bronze medal territory, though that's probably about as god as it's going to get!

[Stramala]

Brad Jacobs will be running in the Junior category please!

Tried the track about 4 or 5 times, managed bronze medal territory, though that's probably about as god as it's going to get!

I didn't know it was possible to drive that slowly

[Shadaza]

Brad Jacobs will be running in the Junior category please!

Tried the track about 4 or 5 times, managed bronze medal territory, though that's probably about as god as it's going to get!

I didn't know it was possible to drive that slowly

Incidently Kostas is your time the final time you will be setting? I managed to get a sneaky peek at your time once I beat the gold.

[Jack O Melley]

Giovanni Roda (#70) would be pleased to join this championship in the junior category. I am completely new at TrackMania (downloaded it just after Kostas created this topic), but I've been practising a couple of hours, with quite satisfying results (managed to get golden medal). Later I'll send the entry via e-mail.

[Stramala]

Brad Jacobs will be running in the Junior category please!

Tried the track about 4 or 5 times, managed bronze medal territory, though that's probably about as god as it's going to get!

I didn't know it was possible to drive that slowly

Incidently Kostas is your time the final time you will be setting? I managed to get a sneaky peek at your time once I beat the gold.

Because I didn't have a saved replay of my track validation time, I had to race it again. And went faster. Sorry

[Aerond]

I tried to drive it twice and the best way to describe my time is Imagine Jean-Dennis Deletraz driving a Life.

[Pointrox]

I tried to drive it twice and the best way to describe my time is Imagine Jean-Dennis Deletraz driving a Life.

*in Murray Walker's voice*
And what is Aerond doing?

[Shizuka]

I tried to drive it twice and the best way to describe my time is Imagine Jean-Dennis Deletraz driving a Life.

If I'd drive, it'd be JDD driving the Life around Imola!

[Stramala]

TMRRC confirms 2015 calendar

The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship has confirmed its schedule for the upcoming season. Despite the championship being brand new, it has picked up many of the rallies once used as rounds of the World Rally Championship, with one notable exception.

The championship will visit ten counties on its round the world journey in the 2015 season;

• Rally Monte Carlo
• Rally Norway
• Qatar Airways Rally Losail
• Rally New Zealand
• Vodafone Rally de Portugal
• ADAC Rally Deutschland
• Tour de Corse
• Safari Rally
• Rally Japan
• Wales Rally GB

"We're happy with this calendar," said TMRRC Commissioner Alasdair Lindsay. "It has a good mixture of event types, some fast and flowing, some slow and twisty, gravel and asphalt, and of course the legendary endurance rally that is the Safari Rally. We're not watering down this reincarnation of the original event, it's going to be a massive challenge for all the crews."

Becasue I want to run this in parallel with the RWRS (I like the notion of a Kimi Raikkonen-esque character in the RWRS), I'm biding my time and waiting for the 2015 season to kick in over there. This has the added advantage of giving me enough time to prepare stages for every rally - so far I have 3 fully completed, 4 partially done and 3 I haven't even begun arranging yet.

[AndreaModa]

Sounds good to me! Gives me more time to get some much-needed practice in!

Also...

PowerSurge to run second driver?

Rumours have emerged this evening of a possible expansion of the PowerSurge Rally Motorsport team, with an additional driver currently being evaluated with a view to taking a second car alongside that of already signed driver Brad Jacobs. Early details are patchy, but it's known the driver is British, and is rumoured to be female. Further details are expected to be revealed in the near future, including whether the driver will be running a full or part-time schedule with PowerSurge.

Yeah, so basically my girlfriend saw me playing TrackMania earlier today, liked the look of it and subsequently downloaded it! I pointed out the championship, and I'm going to wait and see if she's interested in joining!

[Shadaza]

Mind if I ask a few questions?

First what is the average length of a typical rally stage? Is 1.45 a target for example?
I ask this because my brother isn't very consistent at TM to say the least and after a few hours practice he isn't really ready to submit a replay yet.

Secondly I see you have your rallies set to themes, with the opening being Monte Carlo. From the prologue it seems this rally is mainly (about 90:10) a gravel stage, is this representative of the rally roughly, and what sort of variety can we expect in further rallies?

And finally, though a commentary rather then a question, it is very nervy attempting this with no clue on the level of your opponents (well besides a faint clue as to the speed of Kostas!) I don't want to be miles off the pace thats for sure, I think I have a reasonable lap so far but looking at the "lines driver" thread it seems some people here are very very competetive! I hope loads of people attempt this, I think the rookie championship extra is a great idea.

[Stramala]

Mind if I ask a few questions?

First what is the average length of a typical rally stage? Is 1.45 a target for example?
I ask this because my brother isn't very consistent at TM to say the least and after a few hours practice he isn't really ready to submit a replay yet.

Secondly I see you have your rallies set to themes, with the opening being Monte Carlo. From the prologue it seems this rally is mainly (about 90:10) a gravel stage, is this representative of the rally roughly, and what sort of variety can we expect in further rallies?

And finally, though a commentary rather then a question, it is very nervy attempting this with no clue on the level of your opponents (well besides a faint clue as to the speed of Kostas!) I don't want to be miles off the pace thats for sure, I think I have a reasonable lap so far but looking at the "lines driver" thread it seems some people here are very very competetive! I hope loads of people attempt this, I think the rookie championship extra is a great idea.

All stages will be around or under two minutes, with the exception of Rally Safari, which will be brutal and have stages at least 5 minutes long!
Not all stages will be the same mix, but because I don't really have time to create 60 stages on my own so I've recycled maps from old Trackmania contests. This means Monte Carlo, against tradition, is almost exclusively gravel. There is no such thing as snow in TM, but Rally Norway will run a gravel rally with a winter skin applied.

Rally Qatar is a mixture of short and long stages, some are less than 1 minute, others are almsot two. I am going to try and make ADAC Rally Deutschland and Tour De Corse 100% asphalt, but I haven't started assembling the map pack for either event yet. New Zealand and Japan will probably be the most similar to this prologue stage.

As for not knowing the level of your opponent, that's what makes it so exciting I guess? All you can do is push to 100% and hope that it is enough. And yes, I was also hoping a few more people would sign up, with the JRRC I was hoping to attract more newbies to the championship and give them something to compete for if they can't quite get the hang of it like it sounds as if Jack O Melley did.

[Shadaza]

Liking the idea of the Safari rally, I can already see myself smashing my keyboard in frustration .

I think we may have some more people sign up for this around the Chinese Grand Prix weekend. This forums always get more activity around race weekends.

[Stramala]

Liking the idea of the Safari rally, I can already see myself smashing my keyboard in frustration .

I think we may have some more people sign up for this around the Chinese Grand Prix weekend. This forums always get more activity around race weekends.

I think the Safari is the only rally I am going to map on my own. Simply because I am going to make the maps extremely long and bumpy and inconsistent

TMRRC scraps Teams Championship

The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship has made a major change to the sport before its debut season has even begun, scrapping the teams championship entirely.

"We felt, as most entires were single car teams, there was not much use in having the teams championship," said Alasdair Lindsay, TMRRC Commissioner. "We will still obviously have the drivers championship, and also the Nations Cup and Junior Rejects Rally Championship, so there is still plenty of silverware on offer. Plus, given the name of the championship, there will be a Reject of the Rally award at the end of every event, as well as ROTY."

[Shadaza]

Incidently Kostas is your time the final time you will be setting? I managed to get a sneaky peek at your time once I beat the gold.

Because I didn't have a saved replay of my track validation time, I had to race it again. And went faster. Sorry

Erm, how much faster? .

[Stramala]

Incidently Kostas is your time the final time you will be setting? I managed to get a sneaky peek at your time once I beat the gold.

Because I didn't have a saved replay of my track validation time, I had to race it again. And went faster. Sorry

Erm, how much faster? .

You'll find out at the end of next week

[Wizzie]

Kostas, please explain how in the blue hell Mr Roda qualifies for the JRRC considering he's been racing since virtually the dawn of time?

[Stramala]

Kostas, please explain how in the blue hell Mr Roda qualifies for the JRRC considering he's been racing since virtually the dawn of time?

Giovanni Roda (#70) would be pleased to join this championship in the junior category. I am completely new at TrackMania (downloaded it just after Kostas created this topic), but I've been practising a couple of hours, with quite satisfying results (managed to get golden medal). Later I'll send the entry via e-mail.

That's how.

[Wizzie]

I managed to talk my brother into joining the championship. Within minutes, he had thrashed my time on the Prologue by over two and a half seconds

EDIT: Yes, this means that O'Lauchlan Motorsport will expand to a two car effort for this year.

[Stramala]

I managed to talk my brother into joining the championship. Within minutes, he had thrashed my time on the Prologue by over two and a half seconds

EDIT: Yes, this means that O'Lauchlan Motorsport will expand to a two car effort for this year.

And under what alias will he be racing?

BTW, important announcement...

TMRRC REGULATION CHANGE (16/12/2014)
The Trackmania Rejects Rally Championship Commission, after reviewing working practises as part of the championship, opened up car selection for drivers. Teams will no longer be restricted to running the standard nations car, and will instead be allowed to choose from a set list of machinery. Each car (which may include variations of the same base model) is allowed to be assigned to one team only. A full list will be released shortly. Drivers must still use their full competitor name in their TM name submission.

[eurobrun]

Is it possible to run a three car team.

[Stramala]

Is it possible to run a three car team.

Yes, but like I said, there will be no teams championship. If you've got a third person to sign up, that's great, and all three of you can run under the Red Bull World Rally Team banner. But each driver is only scoring points for a) themselves, b) the Nations Cup and c) the JRRC if any of them have no previous experience of Trackmania.

[Wizzie]

I managed to talk my brother into joining the championship. Within minutes, he had thrashed my time on the Prologue by over two and a half seconds

EDIT: Yes, this means that O'Lauchlan Motorsport will expand to a two car effort for this year.

And under what alias will he be racing?

Joel Melrose

[eurobrun]

Is it possible to run a three car team.

Yes, but like I said, there will be no teams championship. If you've got a third person to sign up, that's great, and all three of you can run under the Red Bull World Rally Team banner. But each driver is only scoring points for a) themselves, b) the Nations Cup and c) the JRRC if any of them have no previous experience of Trackmania.

In that case Jason Hamilton will drive car 83. The other two cars will be numbered 5 and 6 and will be entered to the Junior Championship.

EDIT: Jason Hamilton and Joel Melrose in the same championship. This will be epic.

[Stramala]

Is it possible to run a three car team.

Yes, but like I said, there will be no teams championship. If you've got a third person to sign up, that's great, and all three of you can run under the Red Bull World Rally Team banner. But each driver is only scoring points for a) themselves, b) the Nations Cup and c) the JRRC if any of them have no previous experience of Trackmania.

In that case Jason Hamilton will drive car 83. The other two cars will be numbered 5 and 6 and will be entered to the Junior Championship.

EDIT: Jason Hamilton and Joel Melrose in the same championship. This will be epic.

Do you know what aliases they will be driving with?

BTW, there will be a nice surprise for everyone regarding the first rally of the season. I'm working on it right now

[eurobrun]

The drivers aren't 100% confirmed yet.

[Stramala]

Full car list is up on the first post of the thread. Cars assigned first come first served. Each car may only be assigned to one team, but one team can have multiple cars.

[Wizzie]

O'Lauchlan Motorsport will take the Sordo Mini for O'Lauchlan and the Arauja Mini for Melrose.