2012 Monaco Grand Prix discussion

[Stramala]

Nah, seriously speaking, God Save the Queen is not that bad. The melody is decent, and the lyrics may sound outdated - but I love the lyrics for the second verse, that I believe is almost never sang because it's not politically correct. The whole verse smells of "we are the best and the rest of the world hates us, may they go to hell!" and that's what I love about national anthems It asks God to defend the Queen, "scatter her enemies, confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks"

A very patriotic anthem. But sadly, most English people are not in the least patriotic. And the Queen, I don't see why people don't like her, she earns the country millions of pounds in tourism and she doesn't do much anyway. God save the Queen is good but not the best, I feel Rule Britannia would be more apt.

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

[WeirdKerr]

whatever you say about God save the Queen(king) at least its not a dirge (see austria) ... but its tune is the same as the old Imperial german anthem

[shinji]

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

Indeed, Flower of Scotland is a fantastic anthem. Before rugby matches, when the bagpipes drop out, and it's just the entire stadium in acapella unison; it makes me feel proud to be Scottish, and that doesn't even make sense.

[mario]

Im loving this Monaco Grand Prix discussion BTW

It shows how much excitement the race generated that most people here are more interested in arguing about national anthems - speaking of which:

Nah, seriously speaking, God Save the Queen is not that bad. The melody is decent, and the lyrics may sound outdated - but I love the lyrics for the second verse, that I believe is almost never sang because it's not politically correct. The whole verse smells of "we are the best and the rest of the world hates us, may they go to hell!" and that's what I love about national anthems It asks God to defend the Queen, "scatter her enemies, confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks"

A very patriotic anthem. But sadly, most English people are not in the least patriotic. And the Queen, I don't see why people don't like her, she earns the country millions of pounds in tourism and she doesn't do much anyway. God save the Queen is good but not the best, I feel Rule Britannia would be more apt.

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

kostas22, technically Scotland does not have an official national anthem (neither do England or Wales, for that matter), as God Save the Queen is the national anthem of the collective body known as the United Kingdom. Scotland and Wales might have adopted various songs as anthems, but strictly speaking they are not officially national anthems, although if the Scottish assembly wanted to, it could name a particular anthem as its national anthem (but they can't actually agree on what it should be).

I won't complain if Alonso wins though, because he's leading the championship and consistently scoring podiums in a car that's probably somewhere in the midfield. He's clearly the best driver in the sport.

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I'd agree with that - now, anyway. I think the test at Mugello was just what they needed to get the car sorted.

The Mugello test did coincide with a number of updated parts, most notably a modified exhaust system, tighter rear bodywork and modifications to the brake ducts and turning vanes that hang off them, so it is certainly possible that the F2012 has improved in performance since then. I guess that the best indication will be how well Massa performs - given that he looked much more confident in the car in Monaco, it suggests that some of the previous instability that was noted during testing and the early races is being eliminated, and the car seems to be responding more predictably to set up changes.

[dr-baker]

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

Indeed, Flower of Scotland is a fantastic anthem. Before rugby matches, when the bagpipes drop out, and it's just the entire stadium in acapella unison; it makes me feel proud to be Scottish, and that doesn't even make sense.

You're Scottish? But I thought you were Irish...

[shinji]

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

Indeed, Flower of Scotland is a fantastic anthem. Before rugby matches, when the bagpipes drop out, and it's just the entire stadium in acapella unison; it makes me feel proud to be Scottish, and that doesn't even make sense.

You're Scottish? But I thought you were Irish...

Yeah, I am. Hense the nonsensical nature of Flower of Scotland making me feel patriotic towards Scotland. It's just that good an anthem.

[BlindCaveSalamander]

She earns England millions of pounds in tourism. Scotland earns f*** all from having a queen yet our tax money still goes to her. It's a complete disgrace. It's also a disgrace that officially speaking God Save the Queen is the anthem of Scotland. Scots have passion, Flower of Scotland is a powerful anthem, we have something England never will. Look at our football team, even if we're shite we still cheer louder than the English and complain less.

Indeed, Flower of Scotland is a fantastic anthem. Before rugby matches, when the bagpipes drop out, and it's just the entire stadium in acapella unison; it makes me feel proud to be Scottish, and that doesn't even make sense.

You're Scottish? But I thought you were Irish...

I think that was the point.

[Ferrim]

I'm sorry, but nothing can equal the sheer passion and epicness I feel singing the Spanish National Anthem...

...you don't believe me? That's because you've never been singing it, with a lot of people around you, all at once: "loooooo looooo loooooo loooooooo lolo lolo lolo lolo loloooo, loooo, loooooooo, lolo lolo loloooooooooooooooooo!!!"

Note: all these "o" must be pronunced like the two in "London", not like the two in "Liverpool", for full epic effect. (And yes, I know the first "o" in London is not pronounced like the second one, but don't ask an Spaniard to differenciate between as many vowel sounds as you Anglo-Saxons like to have! A good Spaniard will never accept anything more than five vowels!)

[Ferrim]

Going back to the race, an interesting point:

Yesterday was the eighth time Michael Schumacher tried to equal Senna's record of six wins at Monaco. In at least half of his attempts (2002 through 2006, with the exception of 2005) he had a good enough car to win the race; you can argue yesterday he also had it. In three of these five attempts he didn't manage to set the fastest time, even when his car clearly was the class of the field (2002 and 2004); in the other two he was fastest, but couldn't start from pole (2006 and 2011).

It looks like it's a cursed race for him!

[Warren Hughes]

Not in favour of any attempts to write new words then Ferrim?

[AdrianSutil]

I'm sorry, but nothing can equal the sheer passion and epicness I feel singing the Spanish National Anthem...

...you don't believe me? That's because you've never been singing it, with a lot of people around you, all at once: "loooooo looooo loooooo loooooooo lolo lolo lolo lolo loloooo, loooo, loooooooo, lolo lolo loloooooooooooooooooo!!!"

Note: all these "o" must be pronunced like the two in "London", not like the two in "Liverpool", for full epic effect. (And yes, I know the first "o" in London is not pronounced like the second one, but don't ask an Spaniard to differenciate between as many vowel sounds as you Anglo-Saxons like to have! A good Spaniard will never accept anything more than five vowels!)

I now have a headache...

[Sublime_FA11C]

Indeed, Flower of Scotland is a fantastic anthem. Before rugby matches, when the bagpipes drop out, and it's just the entire stadium in acapella unison; it makes me feel proud to be Scottish, and that doesn't even make sense.

You're Scottish? But I thought you were Irish... :oops:

Yeah, I am. Hense the nonsensical nature of Flower of Scotland making me feel patriotic towards Scotland. It's just that good an anthem.

Billy Connolly mentioned in joking that Scots are an Irish tribe. A kind of mentally ill Irish tribe. His grandfather was Irish as well...

[Stramala]

kostas22, technically Scotland does not have an official national anthem (neither do England or Wales, for that matter), as God Save the Queen is the national anthem of the collective body known as the United Kingdom. Scotland and Wales might have adopted various songs as anthems, but strictly speaking they are not officially national anthems, although if the Scottish assembly wanted to, it could name a particular anthem as its national anthem (but they can't actually agree on what it should be).

Also the UK Conservative government would probably try to block a move for us to stop using God Save the Queen completely, because they're anti-Scottish and don't want us to abandon their English institutions. I'm sure they've claimed at one point that disowning GSTQ would be unlawful and we would still be bound to use God Save the Queen as a member of the United Kingdom.

Also, my great-grandmother was from Ireland

[This]

I'm sorry, but I just have to mention this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Low3ByYigQ

Despite the Belgian-ness, i disagree. The Limburg national anthem is way better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYvxxxah_TI (this is a shortened version)
Yes, our province actually has a national anthem (shared with the Dutch province with the same name, of course), but because we're not a nation or a subnation, it's only officious.

[DanielPT]

How about the Portuguese anth... Ok, I better stop now.

It makes me feel patriotic but only because of the words which speak of when there was a Portuguese Empire and not nowadays when we owe money to half the finantial world! Besides that is not that great.

[Stramala]

If by some major miracle Schumacher wins a race ever again, this should be played at the podium ceremony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MYLtqL9T8

[BlindCaveSalamander]

If by some major miracle Schumacher wins a race ever again, this should be played at the podium ceremony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MYLtqL9T8

I would actually root for Schumacher to win, just to hear that played.

[Frentzen127]

This is what I hear twice a day at 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj9mJRfYQPI

Fairly boring, and also so stupidly long, foreign organizers always have to scratch their heads figuring out where to stop it.

[Peter]

As long as Alonso can net some podiums, and we don't have a consistent race winner, meaning, no Webber or Vettel winning consistently, then he may very well have a championship this year. I sure hope so, because I was gutted at Abu Dhabi 2010.

I want Webber to win the championship, because I know Button won't.

I won't complain if Alonso wins though, because he's leading the championship and consistently scoring podiums in a car that's probably somewhere in the midfield. He's clearly the best driver in the sport.

I'd like this, too. It'd be a great story of how the poorly treated second driver rose to the challenge and put his German teammate to shame. Mark should've won it in 2010, so now people would be on about "Aussie boy" instead of "finger boy"

[tommykl]

I'm sorry, but I just have to mention this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Low3ByYigQ

Despite the Belgian-ness, i disagree. The Limburg national anthem is way better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYvxxxah_TI (this is a shortened version)
Yes, our province actually has a national anthem (shared with the Dutch province with the same name, of course), but because we're not a nation or a subnation, it's only officious.

While the Liège 'anthem' is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuqLdu4bBQs (it's a revolutionary chant, but the closest thing we have)

Although I'd prefer it to be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjnhfQA9tak&feature=related

[eurobrun]

The F1 drivers have their say on the events of Monaco.

[dr-baker]

If by some major miracle Schumacher wins a race ever again, this should be played at the podium ceremony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MYLtqL9T8

I would actually root for Schumacher to win, just to hear that played.

[DanielPT]

If by some major miracle Schumacher wins a race ever again, this should be played at the podium ceremony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MYLtqL9T8

I would actually root for Schumacher to win, just to hear that played.

Which means that this should be played when Vettel wins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYKotkkKhY

I always saw a resemblance of Luke Skywalker in him.

[WeirdKerr]

I'd like to hear this..... http://youtu.be/3iOKbRRSgic
or
http://youtu.be/frAh60X367A

[Stramala]

or
http://youtu.be/frAh60X367A

You mean this isn't the Mexican national anthem? Oh...

[eurobrun]

I still want to hear this.

[Shadaza]

I still want to hear this.

That sounds somewhat Familiar...

[JeremyMcClean]

I still want to hear this.

That sounds somewhat Familiar...

The fools! It's the wrong flag!

Seriously, think of a better anthem Liechtenstein.