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Postby tommykl » 17 Sep 2010, 02:11

I'm asking everyone to come with track layouts, any way you can, that are rejectful/quite good/amazing. You can also give a brief description of the track, and how it's rejectful/quite good/amazing.

Here's mine:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4044569
A street circuit on the hills overlooking Liege, Belgium, around a hospital. Lots of elevation changes, trees on the side of the road. A slow chicane is the only bad bit. Otherwise, the quick Becketts-like section also offers a great view of the city, as well as being right next to a monument. Length: 3.8 km.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby FullMetalJack » 17 Sep 2010, 03:01

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4044691 Basically my local area, starting on my road. Because of the elevation change, I reckon if it was a left turn rather than a right turn at the first junction, it would be a great start for a race.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby midgrid » 17 Sep 2010, 03:39

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4044781

A long fast track around my home town of Durham, somewhat reminiscent of the old Spa-Francorchamps with a hairpin first corner. Includes two crossings of the River Wear, a cathedral and castle for a backdrop and numerous elevation changes.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Yannick » 17 Sep 2010, 03:50

Since my teens in the 90s, I've drawn the occasional track design. I was very happy when, a few years ago, I found this message board that focuses on the subject.

Since we are talking hometown circuits, here is one that I have posted on the other board and runs through the town where I grew up. It's clockwise and has got a length of 4.8 kilometers. It's rather highspeed for the most part and has got a rather tiny number of corners, a width of two lanes at most places and a stone paved section that is leading downhill into a heavy breaking zone. I guess it can only be run by touring cars and F3 because it's just not wide enough for higher formulae and speeds.

At first, here is a drawing:
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Next, the G-Map-Pedometer image:
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And finally, a screenshot from some professional geo software:
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I hope you like it. I don't consider it a reject track for the racing it would produce, but for the safety features (lack of possible escape roads etc.) and the fact that in the place where the pits area would be, they have recently erected a hog house.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby DonTirri » 17 Sep 2010, 05:56

Seeing as everyone else was designing around their local area, so did I.

A nice fast circuit, with a LOT of elevation, two traffic circles on the route and stat & finish-line right next to a metro station&shopping mall with a BIG parking garage underneath for all the teams pit-needs.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4045092
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby watka » 17 Sep 2010, 06:03

If you don't know already, you can play your GoogleMaps tracks (albeit without elevation changes etc.) with McLaren's nifty simulator: http://www.vodafone.com/start/sponsorsh ... wn_gp.html
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby FullMetalJack » 17 Sep 2010, 06:46

watka wrote:If you don't know already, you can play your GoogleMaps tracks (albeit without elevation changes etc.) with McLaren's nifty simulator: http://www.vodafone.com/start/sponsorsh ... wn_gp.html


Yup, it was mentioned in The Racing Game Thread. It's good, there's a small elevation change but nothing like a few of the roads i've been using.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby dr-baker » 17 Sep 2010, 18:24

I have never used gmaps pedometer before, but here's a first attempt at a track I imagined while at university:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4046072
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby madmark1974 » 17 Sep 2010, 19:33

Here's my attempt, a Le-Mans length track in and out of my hometown, which goes past my house :

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4046144

Part street circuit, part rural, and the Horringer Road run has some good elevation changes with a slight Eau-Rouge
like section. The Horringer to Westley run would basically be around 1 mile full throttle before a sharp right left chicane,
not too sure how you'd cope with the traffic-calming islands in Westley though...

The start/finish line should probably be on this stretch somewhere, not where I actually put it. Oh, at the roundabout at
the top of the map should be just one turn to the right, but the pedometer makes you go the 'proper' way all around the roundabout,
in actual fact it's a big roundabout so you could probably get away with sending them all the way round (you can go at least 50mph
round it in your own car).

The overall map kind of looks a bit like the Österreichring ... And it'd be a nightmare to set your car up for!
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Frentzen127 » 17 Sep 2010, 23:51

Heres a track I'd like to see one day, even if it were simply put, quite dangerous.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4046527
Wavy, twisty, topsy turvy, Mickey-Mousey.
Its a bit long, but it has... elevation changes! And substantial ones too. Up to 100m by my reckoning.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby midgrid » 18 Sep 2010, 03:32

watka wrote:If you don't know already, you can play your GoogleMaps tracks (albeit without elevation changes etc.) with McLaren's nifty simulator: http://www.vodafone.com/start/sponsorsh ... wn_gp.html


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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 18 Sep 2010, 08:27

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4047793

A track around my hometown. The start line would be on The Northen Road, and would race in a counter-clockwise direction.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby shinji » 18 Sep 2010, 08:37

Ignore this post :oops:
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Jeroen Krautmeir » 18 Sep 2010, 11:00

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab34 ... _Track.png

I decided to screw doing street tracks, so I did a permanent racing facility! :D

Yes, it is very rejectful. :?
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby QuickYoda41 » 18 Sep 2010, 17:23

I'm glad to see a Heidfeld-corner in it. :)
Was there a specific reason for tha names of each corner?
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby FullMetalJack » 18 Sep 2010, 18:02

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab343/Malinth66/KE2_Track.png

I decided to screw doing street tracks, so I did a permanent racing facility! :D

Yes, it is very rejectful. :?


Nice, Schneider and Heidfeld get their own corners.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby JeanDenisAlcatraz » 18 Sep 2010, 20:26

I hope that 5, 6 and 7 are downhill - they remind me of Les Combes to Rivage.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Jeroen Krautmeir » 18 Sep 2010, 20:47

QuickYoda41 wrote:I'm glad to see a Heidfeld-corner in it. :)
Was there a specific reason for tha names of each corner?

I was just naming it after all the German drivers I know! Starting from the earliest guys (ie Lang). As I got closer to the 21st century, all I could think of was Heidfeld/Glock/Frentzen. I was going for HHF, but I like Nick better. :D

JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:I hope that 5, 6 and 7 are downhill - they remind me of Les Combes to Rivage.

That was the whole idea! ;)
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Captain Hammer » 18 Sep 2010, 21:09

watka wrote:If you don't know already, you can play your GoogleMaps tracks (albeit without elevation changes etc.) with McLaren's nifty simulator: http://www.vodafone.com/start/sponsorsh ... wn_gp.html

As awesome as it is, I do a lap and then my computer shuts down ...
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby tommykl » 18 Sep 2010, 21:12

Mine is ok, but I can't access saved tracks. I can only drive on tracks I just made.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby shinji » 18 Sep 2010, 23:13

The coding is pretty dodgy on that Vodafone thing, yes.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby watka » 19 Sep 2010, 03:23

tommykl wrote:Mine is ok, but I can't access saved tracks. I can only drive on tracks I just made.


I get that as well now.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Captain Hammer » 19 Sep 2010, 09:47

I like the way all the corners on Hometown GP are banked.

Anyway, here's my submission: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4049973

Will give it a run on Hometown GP later today.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby MinardiFan95 » 19 Sep 2010, 19:47

watka wrote:
tommykl wrote:Mine is ok, but I can't access saved tracks. I can only drive on tracks I just made.


I get that as well now.


Same for me as well.

Captain Hammer wrote:I like the way all the corners on Hometown GP are banked.

Quite funny that you say that because on a track that I made in my home town there is only one slightly banked corner in real life. Have a guess which corner was the only one without any banking.

Another interesting glitch is that scenery such as mountains can often be on the wrong side of the track as I found out when I made a track on the France/Monaco border (the mountains were in Monaco instead of France).
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby FullMetalJack » 19 Sep 2010, 21:21

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4050713

My second attempt, quite a long track, I didn't think it would be.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Captain Hammer » 21 Sep 2010, 17:46

CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!

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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby dr-baker » 22 Sep 2010, 23:57

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4058336

A variation on the track I did before, with more awkward bends, basically.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Captain Hammer » 23 Sep 2010, 20:59

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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby dr-baker » 24 Sep 2010, 02:05

My first ever post on this forum was advocating a GP on the Isle of Man. So I have decided to come up with my own variation on a Manx track. I started by trying to keep the track to a typical GP track length around the island's capital of Douglas, always using the Manx TT grandstand/pit straight as my starting point but struggled to keep the track below 10 miles (16 km for all those using the French Republic units of measurement) so I thought,"What the heck?" and did my own mega-length track. But it is still 6 miles short of the Manx TT track of 37 miles...
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4060915

This is about as short as you can get away with while taking in the Victorian seafront and using the TT pit straight/grandstand:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4060933

And one final Manx track not using the TT pits/grandstand:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4062921
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby watka » 30 Sep 2010, 05:35

dr-baker wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4058336

A variation on the track I did before, with more awkward bends, basically.


Berrylands? Do you live around there then?
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby midgrid » 02 Oct 2010, 03:12

MinardiFan95 wrote:
watka wrote:
tommykl wrote:Mine is ok, but I can't access saved tracks. I can only drive on tracks I just made.


I get that as well now.


Same for me as well.

Captain Hammer wrote:I like the way all the corners on Hometown GP are banked.

Quite funny that you say that because on a track that I made in my home town there is only one slightly banked corner in real life. Have a guess which corner was the only one without any banking.

Another interesting glitch is that scenery such as mountains can often be on the wrong side of the track as I found out when I made a track on the France/Monaco border (the mountains were in Monaco instead of France).


The ability to view saved tracks and tracks designed by other people is working for me now, so I invite you all to sample a crazy track that I have just designed in the villages of Aureggio, Bellagio and Pescallo, on the shore of Lake Como, with the name "Gran Premio di Como" (there's another track in the same area designed by someone else called "Anywhere"). Welcome to a world of switchbacks and steep hills!

Minardi95, I like your idea of a track around Yosemite. Unfortunately I created one with an identical layout before realising it. :oops:

Quite a few real circuit roads (Monza, Imola, Bahrain, Monaco, Montreal, Silverstone, Spa, Nurburgring) are also available on Google Maps, and people have created accurate tracks for this game. It's interesting to look at Monaco, and see how poor some people's geographical skills are! :lol:
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby dr-baker » 05 Oct 2010, 05:15

watka wrote:
dr-baker wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4058336

A variation on the track I did before, with more awkward bends, basically.


Berrylands? Do you live around there then?


I did from 2001 to 2005 while I was a student at the university up the road in Kingston. I still am working on a plan to move back to the area...
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby P_Friesacher » 05 Oct 2010, 10:20

Has anyone else seen Superleague Formula at the new track in Ordos, Inner Mongolia (China) last weekend? The racing (in Race 2 and the "Superfinal") was great, but that's not why I'm writing here.
They have a chicane there that doubles as a sand trap. Also there is a bump in the middle of said chicane that makes the cars take of - every lap!!!
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby LucaPacchiarini » 08 Oct 2010, 06:01

P_Friesacher wrote:new track in Ordos, Inner Mongolia



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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby LucaPacchiarini » 08 Oct 2010, 06:07

A track of mine, its setting is my hometown Empoli, is going to be built in simracing!

For Gtr2 and GTL, possibly later it will be converted to RFactor too.

this is the layout...

I think I might call one of the straights "F1 Rejects Straight"...or perhaps there might be one HWNSNBM Corner??

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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby Cynon » 08 Oct 2010, 06:11

LucaPacchiarini wrote:A track of mine, its setting is my hometown Empoli, is going to be built in simracing!

For Gtr2 and GTL, possibly later it will be converted to RFactor too.

this is the layout...

I think I might call one of the straights "F1 Rejects Straight"...or perhaps there might be one HWNSNBM Corner??

Image


If you can make that track NR2003-compatible as well, I can ensure it gets raced on. :mrgreen:

Reject track design... San Jose Champ Car circuit, 2005? With the railroad tracks that ate practically half the field and the 4th turn which was so tight that four or five cars whacked it during the race...
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby watka » 10 Oct 2010, 08:29

San Jose is crazy! Also, seldom mentioned Ricardo Sperafico was in that video.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby MinardiFan95 » 10 Oct 2010, 11:34

midgrid wrote:The ability to view saved tracks and tracks designed by other people is working for me now, so I invite you all to sample a crazy track that I have just designed in the villages of Aureggio, Bellagio and Pescallo, on the shore of Lake Como, with the name "Gran Premio di Como" (there's another track in the same area designed by someone else called "Anywhere"). Welcome to a world of switchbacks and steep hills!


I still can't play on saved tracks so I won't be able to try this track (sounds really good, though). However if you like steep hills and switchbacks, try one of the Stelvio Pass tracks that I have made.
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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby dr-baker » 22 Oct 2010, 02:45

As hardcore as a peach...

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Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Postby watka » 02 Nov 2010, 07:30

dr-baker wrote:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4116855


Always did think it was funny that High St in Kingston doesn't really have any shops on it.
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