Stramala describing Chris James wrote:probably the biggest c**t to ever grace the BTCC. He is proof you should need to pass a license test of some kind to have access to the internet.
AndreaModa wrote:This might sound silly, but I really miss the haphazard, mish-mash collections of advertising hoardings that used to characterise tracksides, particularly Imola and Monza if you look at old races from the 80s and 90s (not sure why Italy was such a big fan!) but I was reminded of it today in Monaco where that style is very much still in force! I guess it's not here any more because of partly the corporate pressure, but also the smaller number of sponsors for most races, it was probably only different for Monaco because they're queuing up to advertise there as so many watch it.
sulman wrote:You beat me to it. I was just thinking this, having been reminded of it watching the Senna docu.
Also, Kerbs. Different shapes and sizes, and paint! Monaco today reminded me why we need the old steeper kerbs back, and stop moving the bloody walls!
Dan B wrote:Attrition
The FIA being harder on drivers who screw up royally (see Hamilton at Monaco 2011)
Drivers from multiple racing series
Minardi, or more preciesly, pre-Paul Stoddart Minardi (seriously, from 2001 on those Minardis just looked bland compared to the ones from 1995 to 2000)
Larger grids
The old FIA intro
Engine regs so anyone can run anything if it's at least at a certain displacement
Large variety of teams
Colorful liveries (Yellow Jordans, Telefonica Minardi, Orange Spykers, Bright blue Ligier/Prosts, etc)
Multiple tire manufacturers
Oddball cars
Mismatching wheels: I remember in 1998 Sauber ran cars with 5 spoke rear wheels and 6 split-spoke front wheels
Heck, various wheel shapes: 4 spokes, 3 spokes, list goes on
WeirdKerr wrote:Dan B wrote:Attrition
The FIA being harder on drivers who screw up royally (see Hamilton at Monaco 2011)
Drivers from multiple racing series
Minardi, or more preciesly, pre-Paul Stoddart Minardi (seriously, from 2001 on those Minardis just looked bland compared to the ones from 1995 to 2000)
Larger grids
The old FIA intro
Engine regs so anyone can run anything if it's at least at a certain displacement
Large variety of teams
Colorful liveries (Yellow Jordans, Telefonica Minardi, Orange Spykers, Bright blue Ligier/Prosts, etc)
Multiple tire manufacturers
Oddball cars
Mismatching wheels: I remember in 1998 Sauber ran cars with 5 spoke rear wheels and 6 split-spoke front wheels
Heck, various wheel shapes: 4 spokes, 3 spokes, list goes on
http://youtu.be/p7c3R-wdvpM this intro?
sulman wrote:AndreaModa wrote:This might sound silly, but I really miss the haphazard, mish-mash collections of advertising hoardings that used to characterise tracksides, particularly Imola and Monza if you look at old races from the 80s and 90s (not sure why Italy was such a big fan!) but I was reminded of it today in Monaco where that style is very much still in force! I guess it's not here any more because of partly the corporate pressure, but also the smaller number of sponsors for most races, it was probably only different for Monaco because they're queuing up to advertise there as so many watch it.
You beat me to it. I was just thinking this, having been reminded of it watching the Senna docu.
Also, Kerbs. Different shapes and sizes, and paint! Monaco today reminded me why we need the old steeper kerbs back, and stop moving the bloody walls!
dnhrudi wrote:I miss wide cars and fat tyres, Brands Hatch, characters like Reggazoni, and interesting helmet designs, I wont go on, will start to get all emotional and wondering why I'm still watching.......
mario wrote:sulman wrote:AndreaModa wrote:This might sound silly, but I really miss the haphazard, mish-mash collections of advertising hoardings that used to characterise tracksides, particularly Imola and Monza if you look at old races from the 80s and 90s (not sure why Italy was such a big fan!) but I was reminded of it today in Monaco where that style is very much still in force! I guess it's not here any more because of partly the corporate pressure, but also the smaller number of sponsors for most races, it was probably only different for Monaco because they're queuing up to advertise there as so many watch it.
You beat me to it. I was just thinking this, having been reminded of it watching the Senna docu.
Also, Kerbs. Different shapes and sizes, and paint! Monaco today reminded me why we need the old steeper kerbs back, and stop moving the bloody walls!
That is down to Bernie, and FOM - they have a subsidiary company which has control over what advertising can and cannot be shown during the race weekend (and there was a brief argument last year where FOM threatened to use those powers against FOTA). I guess that they go easy on Monaco because of its unusual status, though...
mario wrote:sulman wrote:AndreaModa wrote:This might sound silly, but I really miss the haphazard, mish-mash collections of advertising hoardings that used to characterise tracksides, particularly Imola and Monza if you look at old races from the 80s and 90s (not sure why Italy was such a big fan!) but I was reminded of it today in Monaco where that style is very much still in force! I guess it's not here any more because of partly the corporate pressure, but also the smaller number of sponsors for most races, it was probably only different for Monaco because they're queuing up to advertise there as so many watch it.
You beat me to it. I was just thinking this, having been reminded of it watching the Senna docu.
Also, Kerbs. Different shapes and sizes, and paint! Monaco today reminded me why we need the old steeper kerbs back, and stop moving the bloody walls!
That is down to Bernie, and FOM - they have a subsidiary company which has control over what advertising can and cannot be shown during the race weekend (and there was a brief argument last year where FOM threatened to use those powers against FOTA). I guess that they go easy on Monaco because of its unusual status, though...dnhrudi wrote:I miss wide cars and fat tyres, Brands Hatch, characters like Reggazoni, and interesting helmet designs, I wont go on, will start to get all emotional and wondering why I'm still watching.......
To be honest, Brands Hatch had to go - the safety measures were inadequate for the lap times, and average lap speeds, that the cars could do, even back in the 1980's (Mansell still holds the lap record at Brands Hatch, with a sub 1m10 lap in the 1986 British GP). As we saw saw during the Superleague race last year, and during a BTCC race too, an airborne car could easily come down in a dangerous area (the BTCC crash was more worrying, since a marshall was nearly hit by the car as almost landed on top of a marshalls post).
AndreaModa wrote:mario wrote:That is down to Bernie, and FOM - they have a subsidiary company which has control over what advertising can and cannot be shown during the race weekend (and there was a brief argument last year where FOM threatened to use those powers against FOTA). I guess that they go easy on Monaco because of its unusual status, though...
True, but there's always the same bunch of companies advertising at each race (obviously Pirelli, but also Shell, DHL, UBS, etc, etc.) it's just that Monaco had them arranged much more nicely, randomly around the circuit whereas normally you'll see certain portions of the circuit given over to each company - for example at Silverstone last year Shell had Copse and the run up through Maggots and Becketts.
I want random advertisement placement dammit!
Benetton wrote:Old intro on the Finnish MTV3 channel. Best F1 intro ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oV69wZeRYg&feature=related
DOSBoot wrote:Even though they didn't play it here in the U.S., I've seen enough clips on youtube to know that this starting grid theme is something that will be missed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyh-nDx ... re=related
Stramala describing Chris James wrote:probably the biggest c**t to ever grace the BTCC. He is proof you should need to pass a license test of some kind to have access to the internet.
redbulljack14 wrote:
YES! That was amazing.
Kimi-ICE wrote:NOOOOOO!!!!! Damm those Pirelli tires, Made of cheese
JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:I miss the excitement I used to feel as the lights went on. Maybe it was because I was a child, but I used to get butterflies in my stomach every time.
Anyone who's watched the most recent episode of South Park will understand the how I feel now.
cretoxyrhina wrote:SSSSUUUPPPAHH AGURI!
Takuma Sato at his peak.
Mika Hakkinen vs Michael Schumacher
My local 2002 coverage. Clearly the best ever (not very good, though...)redbulljack14 wrote:Jos Verstappen, he's 39, younger than Schumi and PDLR. Give Massa the boot, Jos the Boss in.
Well, Nigel Mansell is only several years older, he's only what, 57?

AndreaModa wrote:I miss the times when the cars used to be parked up on the side of the track once they'd retired! No safety cars needed for umpteen laps to wait for some slow tow truck to get the car halfway round the course to a 'safe place'!
Stramala describing Chris James wrote:probably the biggest c**t to ever grace the BTCC. He is proof you should need to pass a license test of some kind to have access to the internet.
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